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  • #16
    Originally posted by astjp2 View Post
    There is only ONE company currently building them, the date coded thread will be the same for any supplier, also the cw cold weather bungees last longer. Spend the money on them, I do.
    Tim, can you tell us that supplier's name and how to order the cw ones? I need to replace mine. TKS.
    Bill Fife
    BL12-65 '41 Deluxe Under (s-l-o-w) Restoration

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    • #17
      Bill, you can perform a search on here for the group buy, or just order a set from spruce. I am having a brain dead moment so this would be quick for you.
      N29787
      '41 BC12-65

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      • #18
        Thanks, Tim. Looks like that group has closed due to lack of cost advantage re. group buys. But if a cold weather type is available I need that one. Mine have failed completely.

        Understand there were different ones for prewar v post-, why I asked you as you have a '41 like mine. Does ASS sell both kinds? They list 17 separate models but didn't see that designation on their online listings.

        ...Looks like 9090 would be the right ones for us (Re Hank's posting). Not as stiff as the 1080's which I believe were last kind installed. They were really stiff..

        Am also going to need to know where I can buy, borrow or rent a bungee tool. Pretty sure this jet-shop doesn't know what one is!

        And I did find that axe-handle chafe protector still available. Amazon sells two kinds:
        https://www.amazon.com/89804-Single-...&qid=155471077 4&s=gateway&sr=8-4
        Last edited by wmfife; 08-09-2024, 12:57.
        Bill Fife
        BL12-65 '41 Deluxe Under (s-l-o-w) Restoration

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        • #19
          These are the two bungee cord tools that Aircraft Spruce sells. The first one ("bungee cord removal tool") sells or $217
          The second one ("replacement bungee cord tool 'forked bar'", not shown) is $88.
          Anyone use these? Which one is best? (Let me guess...)

          (A forked bar is included in the first so second = a replacement..) Click image for larger version  Name:	image.png Views:	11 Size:	61.2 KB ID:	196171 ​​
          Last edited by wmfife; 08-09-2024, 13:17.
          Bill Fife
          BL12-65 '41 Deluxe Under (s-l-o-w) Restoration

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          • #20
            Correct me if I’m wrong, those tools have no resemblance to the Taylorcraft tool. You should be able to see the correct tool by searching bunge cord tool.
            L Fries
            N96718
            TF#110

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            • #21
              I have a loaner tool, and call stoddards aircraft in anchorage, they may have them on the shelf for the cw. Loaner tool is pay for shipping both ways. 907-272-2327
              N29787
              '41 BC12-65

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              • #22
                Thanks Tim. Will do.
                But meanwhile have to use a (heavy-duty) bumper jack (plus some heavy wood beams cut to precise length)* + lots of padding... to re-set one of the safety cables that came loose when the gear got spread.
                *(Close inspection of area reveals this not workable. Still looking for a way to raise gear enough to re-mount wheels.)
                Had removed wheels to re-inflate when it started. Did not yet have this power air pump but didn't matter as tires refuse to take air from anything I have..
                ...Will keep all posted. Haven't solved this yet.
                Last edited by wmfife; 08-11-2024, 17:43.
                Bill Fife
                BL12-65 '41 Deluxe Under (s-l-o-w) Restoration

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                • #23
                  The HS-3 bumper is the one I use, rightly or wrongly.

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                  • #24
                    Just to be clear (?) are the cw's you use the 1080HD? AS&S sells those. But according to Hank's post I need the 9090 to be correct for the '41.
                    Still trying to make sense of all the codes. (1080 is 10 1/16ths in cord diameter or 5/8ths in. diam. but a 9090 is 90 1/16ths?? Yet is less stiff??)
                    This is according to Univair's Shock Cords Doc.
                    90 1/16ths of an inch =5.625" ... way too wide cord. That can't be right.
                    Last edited by wmfife; 08-09-2024, 17:39.
                    Bill Fife
                    BL12-65 '41 Deluxe Under (s-l-o-w) Restoration

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                    • #25
                      If your airplane is heavy, I would consider a heavier bungee. Correct original is not always a good application.
                      N29787
                      '41 BC12-65

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                      • #26
                        Thickness will determine how stiff, diameter will determine how tight , mine has one L2 and one prewar to balance stiffness and how much the flex.
                        N29787
                        '41 BC12-65

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                        • #27
                          Had to correct my math. Very confusing but if the first 2 digits represent the # of sixteenths then 1080 makes sense but 9090 (still) does not.

                          Am reading that CW can be had as special order but as I live in FL and it gets mid nineties about now CW might not be best choice.

                          But AS&S is saying that 1080 is a standard cord, listed for the PA-22 108, identical make & model I trained in.
                          I believe a Piper Colt is a good deal heavier than a '41 T-Craft. Mine is listed as 767 lbs dry /empty weight.
                          That's 220 lbs lighter than the Colt at 985 empty.

                          Didn't find a listing for the L-2 but what if I mix the 1080 with the 9090? One is good on Tri-Pacers the other historically correct for the prewar T.
                          Would that be an optimum alternate choice?
                          Or should they be all the same length? I see one is 9" the other just 8. Hm guess maybe not.
                          Unless maybe put the 9" on the inside and the 8" outbd.? Can that be done?
                          Last edited by wmfife; 08-09-2024, 19:38.
                          Bill Fife
                          BL12-65 '41 Deluxe Under (s-l-o-w) Restoration

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                          • #28
                            Bill, your airplane should take the 9090. Post war takes the 9010.

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                            • #29
                              Thanks, Tom. I see that indicated on the AS site. But Tim seems to think they might be a little soft for modern use.
                              Mine is listed at 767 lbs dry /ew. Is that close to what you get in the '41?
                              Bill Fife
                              BL12-65 '41 Deluxe Under (s-l-o-w) Restoration

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                              • #30
                                We are a little heavier than that. Our airplane has been flying with this set of bungees since 2017, and they are just starting to show a little give on the ground. For the pre war I don't think there is a heavy duty or cold weather option. They use a 9" ring where the post wat uses a 10" ring. Post war are more plentiful, and have more options. Just put the 9090's on and be done with it.

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