BC12D Instrument Panel Attach Points

[3Dreaming]

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If I HAD a set I would! I only have the PDFs, but will most likely order the paper ones. I had no idea they were that clear! I have been suffering with the bad paper ones for years thinking that was as good as it gets.

Hank

I think this is what Tim was referring to. "I have all of my fathers Aeronautical Engineering books and most are from the 1930s and 40s, including all of his really old fastener books!".

[Hank Jarrett]

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Yea, missed out on that one and assumed he was talking about the drawings. When I go I am hoping the Taylorcraft Foundation will have a permanent home (hopefully at the airport we are trying to build in NE North Carolina) and I plan to donate all of my engineering books, drawings and old catalogues, magazines and documents to a library there. I have many old aviation books and magazines, some going back to WW-I and earlier. My nightmare is that something happens that allows someone who doesn't recognize the value to settle my estate with a dumpster! I have seen it happen several times with a relative saying "Why would ANYONE want all those old papers?" after they went to a land fill.

[Scott]

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Hank already mentioned it, but I just checked my aircraft out. Even though I don't have the original IP and the tabs aren't being used, they are there on mine.

Ah ha, good to know. Thanks

it would appear the use of these screws was discontinued at some point. However I don't believe the need changed. The panel can use the additional support in the lower corners imo, especially if radios are installed in the map box location. I will use a couple of adel clamps.

[Hank Jarrett]

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Just as a reminder, if you have the glove boxes make SURE you tie the forward corner of the box to a tube. If the box can be deflected enough to catch on the gear at the front of the control wheel tube you can get a BAD surprise as you suddenly find you can't pull the wheel back! Mine had interference between the gear and box that I saw before I put the boot cowl on and an adel clamp and bolt and nut through the box corner takes care of it, but I was really shaken up when I pushed the wheel forward and it wouldn't come back!

Hank

[Robert Lees]

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Just as a reminder, if you have the glove boxes make SURE you tie the forward corner of the box to a tube. If the box can be deflected enough to catch on the gear at the front of the control wheel tube you can get a BAD surprise as you suddenly find you can't pull the wheel back! Mine had interference between the gear and box that I saw before I put the boot cowl on and an adel clamp and bolt and nut through the box corner takes care of it, but I was really shaken up when I pushed the wheel forward and it wouldn't come back!

Hank

There is in my BC12D a tab at which to do just that, both sides.

I did a quick search through my photos and found them; see photos below (the tabs are highlighted with yellow arrows)

[M Towsley]

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Maybe that is why the boxes were originally made of cardboard, Hank???

[astjp2]

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My prewar was metal, the Replacements I bought were plastic, which I didn't use because they didn't fit my configuration. Tim

[Hank Jarrett]

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The tabs on Roberts are right where I put the bolts on mine to hook to the tube. I had an extra cardboard glove box that didn't turn out too well and tried seeing what would happen of it hooked on the gear. You "could" crush the box, as long as nothing was in it to interfere, but it took quite a pull. NOT something I would want to do in the air. There was also a LARGE movement of the controls as the box crushed which would cause a BIG control movement!
My plane was sold to me with metal box's that I replaced with ones closer to original. I doubt I could have crushed a metal one, even in a panic.

Hank

[Robert Lees]

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My original BC12D gloveboxes were of a cardboard-type material, as suggested.

[M Towsley]

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Does anyone have the dimensions and/or drawings of the originals?

[Hank Jarrett]

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I do. There are two sizes for pre and post war. The material is a leather textured cardboard material used for the hat shelf in the back of old cars. The original was stapled together and I couldn't find any stapler that looked close so I drilled small holes and bent wire staples by hand. I cheated and glued the joints since I couldn't get the staples tight. It looks right, but is a bit of a cheat. I also heavy scored the folds and then held them at a 90 degree angle and put cabinet glue in the score on the outside to strengthen the cardboard.
You may need to ping me a few times to remind me to keep a look out for the drawings Marty. We are re-doing our kitchen and my drawings are under a LOT of kitchen junk!

Hank

[M Towsley]

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Thanks, Hank, no hurry. I have a large sheet of the hat shelf cardboard from when I did my glare shield. Good luck with the kitchen!