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    I'm recovering a tcraft and the owner wants to leave the wing tank out and just have the fuselage tank, can this be done legally? any paperwork involved? thanks, Keith

  • #2
    Re: wing tank

    If it is a right tank I would be interested in it if it is usable. Larry
    "I'm from the FAA and we're not happy, until your not happy."

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    • #3
      Re: wing tank

      Ask the owner why they would devalue (several grand) thier aircraft for 10 lbs, Tim
      N29787
      '41 BC12-65

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      • #4
        Re: wing tank

        Yes you can leave it out; I would not , it is very handy thing to have.... 6 more gal right when you need it... handy for using mo gas too!
        Taylorcraft Foundation, Inc
        Forrest A Barber 330-495-5447
        TF#1
        www.BarberAircraft.com
        [email protected]

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        • #5
          Re: wing tank

          Forrest, Thanks for the reply, this plane has been in the same family for 60+ years and they only fly it around the patch and haven't used the wing tank in 40 years. so he wants it left out. Is the any paperwork involved if I leave it out and did any Tcraft's come with only a fuse. tank? Thanks, Keith

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          • #6
            Re: wing tank

            Check the type certificate data sheet, quite certain it shows 18 Gal. capacity

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            • #7
              Re: wing tank

              Its a simple enough change, but should be FAA approved to stay legal. I can issue a DER approval for this and you can reference the change on the 337 with approved data. We will need to make sure and remove associated placards, etc. Send me an email if you need my help. [email protected]
              Terry Bowden, formerly TF # 351
              CERTIFIED AERONAUTICAL PRODUCTS, LLC
              Consultant D.E.R. Powerplant inst'l & Engines
              Vintage D.E.R. Structures, Electrical, & Mechanical Systems
              BC12D, s/n 7898, N95598
              weblog: Barnstmr's Random Aeronautics
              [email protected]

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              • #8
                Re: wing tank

                Why would the owner require the wing tank to be removed? Unless someone has offered a huge amount of money for a wing tank?

                Someone needs to talk to the owner.

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                • #9
                  Re: wing tank

                  Keith,

                  I agree with everyone else here that you should try to talk the owner into keeping the wing tank. The small amount of weight you will save is not worth the inconvenience of having a small fuel capacity. If they insist on leaving it out, I would at least try to convince them to use the 337 I donated to the foundation to put the sheet aluminum panels over the wing bays where the tanks go. That way, if they ever decide to sell the plane or just change their minds, the tank could be reinstalled without having to do fabric work. It would make the plane more valuable if you had the tank, fuel line, and valve available as part of the sale. A copy of the 337 is available in the resources section of the foundation's website.
                  Richard Pearson
                  N43381
                  Fort Worth, Texas

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                  • #10
                    Re: wing tank

                    Fuel capacity 12 gal. (-9) (See item 312 for auxiliary tank).

                    Right off TCDS 699. It was my understanding that the wing tank was optional and therefor no paperwork would be required to remove it.
                    MIKE CUSHWAY
                    1938 BF50 NC20407
                    1940 BC NC27599
                    TF#733

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                    • #11
                      Re: wing tank

                      Mike,
                      RH wing tanks (without LH) were standard (not optional) on BC12-65, BCS12-65, BC12-D, BCS12-D, BC12D-85, BCS12D-85, BC12D-4-85, and BCS12D-4-85.

                      Both LH and RH wing tanks were optional for the above models plus the BC12-D1 and BCS12-D1.

                      LH wing tanks (without RH) were optional on BC, BCS, and BC65.

                      All B-series models have the 12 gallon fuselage tank as standard.

                      So any combination not covered above would need approval.
                      Terry Bowden, formerly TF # 351
                      CERTIFIED AERONAUTICAL PRODUCTS, LLC
                      Consultant D.E.R. Powerplant inst'l & Engines
                      Vintage D.E.R. Structures, Electrical, & Mechanical Systems
                      BC12D, s/n 7898, N95598
                      weblog: Barnstmr's Random Aeronautics
                      [email protected]

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                      • #12
                        Re: wing tank

                        TCDS - type certificate says wing tank. It can be removed. FAA337 and new weight and balance calculation submitted with it. If you're trying to stay in the Standard category. Like the tribe says. Value would diminish.

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                        • #13
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                          Small point here for info mostly, no critique intended.

                          If its listed in the tcds you can make the change with a log book entry only.

                          No 337 required in cases where the change is listed in the TCDS.

                          But there is nothing wrong with doing a 337 especially since it records it permanently.

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                          • #14
                            Re: wing tank

                            If its listed in the TCDS as an option then yes, but if its listed as a required item then its a change to the tcds which then requires a field approval or some other data for approval. Tim

                            Originally posted by drude View Post
                            Small point here for info mostly, no critique intended.

                            If its listed in the tcds you can make the change with a log book entry only.

                            No 337 required in cases where the change is listed in the TCDS.

                            But there is nothing wrong with doing a 337 especially since it records it permanently.
                            N29787
                            '41 BC12-65

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                            • #15
                              Re: wing tank

                              He didn't even say what model the airplane is. That would shed more light on what would have to be done to remove it. Tom

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