F19 landing gear needed

[3Dreaming]

Univair owns what AD?

I think the AD he was referring to is Atlee Dodge.

[PA1195]

Yes UNIVAIR and F Atlee Dodge were joined in 2005.

Gary

[Robert Lees]

My understanding is that for certificated aircraft, a yellow tag is worth the paper it's written on. An FAA form 8130 is the document for manufacture or repair. Am I right or misguided?

Rob

[Hank Jarrett]

Rob, that is what I was told. Yellow tag is just what people call a good part, but the tag itself has NO value. Now a RED tag does at least tell you someone wouldn't use the part. But it wasn't the FAA.

[astjp2]

My understanding is that for certificated aircraft, a yellow tag is worth the paper it's written on. An FAA form 8130 is the document for manufacture or repair. Am I right or misguided?

Rob

8130-3 is an EXPORT tag, but universally used for new parts and other information.

I stand corrected

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&ved=2ahUKEwjNw8SL78zoAhVrhXIEHb6hCb4QFjAKegQIBhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.faa.gov%2Faircraft%2Fair_cert%2Finternational%2Fexport_aw_approval%2Fmedia%2F8130-3qa.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2qEVJEFxHJBlYux-CUKMY3

[Guest]

My understanding is that for certificated aircraft, a yellow tag is worth the paper it's written on. An FAA form 8130 is the document for manufacture or repair. Am I right or misguided?

Rob

The yellow tag filled out by a repair station (or whatever color it is) is typically the indication that a repair station has completed some repair process that they are approved to do on said component.

So yes IMHO it has value to the A&P using that component.

A couple of months ago I got some gears back from a repair station with them came a minature yellow 8130-3 form. Sort of a giant yellow tag!

I suspect that when a repair shop will do a repair but will not yellow tag it that it has something to do with things like they are doing a process that they are not authorized to do. They are authorized for very specific processes not a broad scope of general repairs like an A & P.

Probably/possibly an A&P is authorized for such a repair but there are none in the repair shop to sign it off or willing to do so.

Of course it could just be a wildly different repair and no one wants to sign for it.

Dave R

[N96337]

The "yellow tag" is a "maintenance release tag" and is the form used by a repair station to document maintenance/overhaul to that particular part, and is all the documentation you need to use that part.
As far as them not wanting to yellow tag your gear, it's most likely because (as stated before) they don't have that particular gear on their op-specs. If it's not specifically there, they have no authority to issue the yellow tag through the repair station. As is usual with the FAA, it's all about paperwork, not capability.
If one of their welders did the repair and detailed it out, I'd have no problem inspecting and installing that gear if it was mine. That's totally legal as well. 8130 tags are often confused as the "holy grail". They're not always necessary. Find an IA that has half a brain, get them involved and go for it.
John

[PA1195]

Maybe they lack the FAA Approved Data to "repair" Taylorcraft landing gear? Stuff like factory prints and specs? Speculation aside I'm sure it was all openly discussed when the OP approached FAD on the repairs, or at least I would expect it to have been. The other matter mentioned is adding axle sleeving and structural bracing to an already airworthy gear. There's a previous 337 for the latter reinforcement here: https://www.taylorcraft.org/resources.html. Both Grove and CAP-Terry Bowden have addressed the tapered to straight axle modification. I have a Field Approved 337 for the Grove straight axle adapter P/N 5045 on my Taylorcraft (plus Grove wheels and brakes) that preceeded CAP's kit.

Edit: I sense locally a movement to be cautious about previously installed and approved parts or repairs. Just because one A&P/IA thought it was acceptable doesn't guarantee others will when it comes time to inspect and return to service. Most will-some won't for reasons valid to them.

Gary