Placard availability

[Scott]

Good day all
Read some older posts about reproduction placards, specifically VNE 140, aux fuel, right control wheel removal, and baggage limitation. Is there a current source, or does anyone have any they'd be willing to part with?

Thanks
Scott

[astjp2]

Re: Placard availability

trophy shop

[Ragwing nut]

Re: Placard availability

Used to be Noel Allard but not sure he is still doing them anymore

[Scott]

Re: Placard availability

Thanks
would you happen to have any contact info?

Used to be Noel Allard but not sure he is still doing them anymore

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Placard availability

This is part of the art work we used from the last time we made some. Depending on the year of your plane they could be engraved in brass, stamped into thin brass, printed on thin metal or on laminated paper with "sticky back". Be aware also that the baggage weight and VNE were NOT the same for all models!
I have more photos and art work depending on exactly what you need. I also may still have a fw placards but need to know which ones on what material you need. The embossed ones were from Josh and we lost the method he used to make them when we lost him.

Hank

[Ragwing nut]

Re: Placard availability

Thanks
would you happen to have any contact info?

I think his current phone number is 218-732-5100

[Scott]

Re: Placard availability

This is part of the art work we used from the last time we made some. Depending on the year of your plane they could be engraved in brass, stamped into thin brass, printed on thin metal or on laminated paper with "sticky back". Be aware also that the baggage weight and VNE were NOT the same for all models!
I have more photos and art work depending on exactly what you need. I also may still have a fw placards but need to know which ones on what material you need. The embossed ones were from Josh and we lost the method he used to make them when we lost him.

Hank

I'm actually not sure what type they're supposed to be.... BC12D May 1946. The only placards I had were made with Dymo tape!

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Placard availability

Dymo tape is definitely 70s and 80s. ;-)
Right after the war they still had some embossed placards that they used up and were switching to silk screen on thin adhesive backed brass (at least that is what I have seen). They didn't start using the paper printed ones till much later. If you have a local silk screen shop they could make you a complete set with the art work. There were originally a LOT of them in the planes, but many fell off with time and have been lost. Most mechanics and ALL FAA types have no idea what is required any more.

Hank

[Scott]

Re: Placard availability

Thanks Hank
Am I right in assuming it was black ink on brass for the silk screen versions?
Would you have any higher resolution images of the artwork?
S

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Placard availability

This is the trim placards Josh made. He wasn't satisfied with them (he was a HUGE perfectionist!). He didn't like it that the smooth parts had little "pimples". My pointing out that the ORIGINALS had them too didn't dissuade him. He wanted them perfect. I will be putting one of his "bad" ones in my plane.

The little Taylorcraft "wing" bottom center on the panel was printed paper on later models and the brass ones had the lettering and outline exposed brass and the background a dark color. Not sure if it was the dark trim color or black, but I can't imagine them doing multiple colors so I am using black.

Several of the original embossed brass placards we had had no color on them at all and only the quartermaster that kept them from tarnishing. Some, like the control universal one (that most of us don't even have on our planes) you would swear was brand new! I "suspect" that the pre war ones may have been hand painted and post war they didn't bother until they used the embossed brass ones up and went to silk screened flat brass or (even later) paper.

Don't take all this as "Gospel". Josh and I did a LOT of research to try to figure it all out and some of it is best guess using the history of the technologies available at the times. It was sure fun to do. Wish Josh was still around. I really miss him.

Hank

[Scott]

Re: Placard availability

Thanks Hank
really appreciate all the information and history.
I think I'll try to get some silk-screened brass versions made. At least I can change them later if I necessary.

One problem I've discovered is my aux fuel valve range is 90 degrees from vertical to horizontal, rather than 120-210 degrees. Tried to reorient it when I rebuilt it but the only option is 180 degrees. Are there different versions of these valves or handles for different on-off orientations?
Scott

[3Dreaming]

Re: Placard availability

The shaft is likely square. If that is the case you need a handle with the square cut on 45°. You could take a small triangle file and cut new points in your handle. The problem would be there is not enough contact area to take the twisting force of turning the handle. Back in the day model airplane servos had square shafts, and the servo arms had 8 point stars to help with orientation.

[Scott]

Re: Placard availability

the shaft is round with three flats machined and the handle matches ie three flat sides and a radius so it will only go on one way. My guess is there must be differnt shafts or handles for different orientations. I thought it might be possible to assemble it in a way that produces a different orientation but not with the parts currently installed.