Taylorcraft/Martin wire

[M Towsley]

Re: Taylorcraft/Martin wire

John,

On the chance I may open the proverbial can of worms, I thought rib-stitching wasn't allowed on aluminum ribs due to the possibility of the sharp ends of the aluminum ribs cutting the stitching. Though I did notice my first Taylorcraft I bought eleven years ago had rib stitching. Just curious. Thanks!

[N96337]

Re: Taylorcraft/Martin wire

I'd just rib stitch it and be done with it. Yeah, the original is great, but it's non-supported anymore, so grab AC43.13-1B and use the approved data and rib stitch. It's no biggie.
John

Re: Taylorcraft/Martin wire

We may differ on the maths, no problem :beerchug: I'd rather have 300' and have spare rather than have 200' and be short!

The essence is that a few feet here and there is only going to make a few cents difference to the cost.

Merry Christmas to all!

Rob

Hi Rob,

Martin wire is $.60/ft.

When I was selling my wire I was getting $1/ft. if I recall and what I have left will sell for $2/ft+ when I start selling it again.

I have limited stock so parting with the minimum amount at each sale is very important to me.

That shapes my perception but if it comes at a good price then I think you are on the right track. I would probably go for 400'.

Dave

[Robert Lees]

Re: Taylorcraft/Martin wire

We may differ on the maths, no problem :beerchug: I'd rather have 300' and have spare rather than have 200' and be short!

The essence is that a few feet here and there is only going to make a few cents difference to the cost.

Merry Christmas to all!

Rob

Hi Rob,

If you measure and add 2" to account for the unseen wire that is inside the rib at the ends and count aileron bay ribs and inboard ribs you will get 198' for 2 wings. Aileron bay ribs use less wire.

Dave

[cvavon]

Re: Taylorcraft/Martin wire

Send me your address at [email protected] and i wltt send you a sample marry Christmas

Re: Taylorcraft/Martin wire

Hi Rob,

If you measure and add 2" to account for the unseen wire that is inside the rib at the ends and count aileron bay ribs and inboard ribs you will get 198' for 2 wings. Aileron bay ribs use less wire.

Dave

[Robert Lees]

Re: Taylorcraft/Martin wire

Mark:

If one assumes a 15-rib wing (only 14 need wire) and the chord is 5 feet (ignoring the aileron cut-out & the short rib at the tip) then 5*14*4=280 feet.

Add a bit for FAF so say each Taylorcraft is a 300 feet roll.

Much better to allow the installer to cut the wire from the roll as required.

Material is certainly stainless, but to what spec I know not. 303?

HTH,
Rob

[Mark Bowden]

Re: Taylorcraft/Martin wire

Hi, Yes a part would be best to have as a sample, make a drawing off of and to show. Who ever wants to send me a part, please send me a PM and I'll give you my address. I'll send it back when done.

Key will be finding out the alloy of the wire, anybody know this? It should be on the original print (yes I know) maybe someone has seen a copy or can visit Forrest?
Roughly, how many linear ft per wing for all 4 surfaces?
How does the aileron bay part differ from the full chord part?
What would the edge treatment feature be like that would be preferred?
Each piece can be cut to length and you can specify chamfer, straight, deburr, round, etc. (all affect cost).
That small radius is likely ok but the possible handling issue will be that long parts whip around the end as it comes out of the bender (machine must slow down).

I'm gone a bit over Christmas but can make some calls after. There is also one company in here in KC I'll go stop by. There is risk that some wouldn't touch an "airplane" part but most do just about any industry including medical. This is how springs get made too so it may help on brake springs and the like.

Thanks, Mark

[Garry Crookham]

Re: Taylorcraft/Martin wire

I'll commit to a minimum of two wings worth of wire.

Garry

[cvavon]

Re: Taylorcraft/Martin wire

I love taylorcraft airplanes so i will end up with another one in the future for sure and it would more then likely be a post war and i would need the wire and yes i tend to be a hoarder.Dave have a great Christmas .

Re: Taylorcraft/Martin wire

Mark would a peace of new wire help to get it run as I am sitting on a roll of new original Taylorcraft wire and would send a peace to you.

Get off it before you bend it!

Chuck apparently we are both hoarders! LOL

Dave

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Taylorcraft/Martin wire

I am sure there are many of us who could provide a rib or do the spacing verification prior to making the full run too. I have some ribs to run a test on if needed.

Hank

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Taylorcraft/Martin wire

I would think we could get a bunch of us to commit to buying enough for two wings each (almost anyone with a recover project in their future plans). If the price is anywhere near reasonable you could tell the manufacturer the size of the order up front for the quote.

I would certainly like enough for two wings.

Hank

[cvavon]

Re: Taylorcraft/Martin wire

Mark would a peace of new wire help to get it run as I am sitting on a roll of new original Taylorcraft wire and would send a peace to you.

[M Towsley]

Re: Taylorcraft/Martin wire

Wow, Mark. Though I have never been in-need and hope to never be in-need you apparently have an answer, and potential source, that has been a problem for years to Taylorcraft restorers. I hope this comes to fruition for Mr. 'Fox' and others. All it takes is the right person in the right place, great to hear.