F-19 Headliner

[astjp2]

Try kydex you can use a heat gun to had form it. Tim

[Tshoney2]

Ya I seen the post were old but thought I would take a shot.

[Robert Lees]

Hey Tshoney2, welcome!
You may not get many responses because F19 headliner questions don't come up too often (because there are so few F19s made).

But please continue to ask questions here; we'll try to help as best we can.

[Tshoney2]

Hey everyone I recently bought an F19 with TT 193. It is missing back section of headliner and baggage compartment. If anyone has pics or nowhere to find parts would be appreciated thanks

[t-crafter]

Re: F-19 Headliner

No way Mark, I claim that. I am always loosing track of who I am supposed to answer about what!

Hank

Not sure if this would help anyone but this is how I repaired a F19 headliner that was previously repaired with fiberglass. I have used on all ABS plastic parts. Tape the face side so both edges match evenly and put Permatex black plastic welder on the back off the crack. Do only about 6 to 8 in. at a time as it sets up in 5 min. It works good as a backer for all brittle ABS parts. Than paint with plastic spray paint.
Permatex BLACK PLASTIC WELDER
2 PART EPOXY
#84145

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: F-19 Headliner

Can I re-post this?
Here is an old photo of how the headliner was placed into an F-19 to see if it fit.

Apparently the photos do not re-post ... or at least I'm ignorant.
But on 5/31/12 I posted photos of the old and new headliner and also the headliner set into a F-19 fuselage. Follow the F-19 Headliner thread back and see the photos.

I have decided I am the worst guy ever at following up messages and posts....business gets in the way of hobbies.

No way Mark, I claim that. I am always loosing track of who I am supposed to answer about what!

Hank

[Mark Julicher]

Re: F-19 Headliner

I will put your name on one.

I don't need one, but don't mind paying for one if your willing to hold it until the next time I am in the area to pick it up. I'm sure shipping would cost more than the part does.

[Ragwing nut]

Re: F-19 Headliner

I don't need one, but don't mind paying for one if your willing to hold it until the next time I am in the area to pick it up. I'm sure shipping would cost more than the part does.

[Mark Julicher]

Re: F-19 Headliner

Can I re-post this?
Here is an old photo of how the headliner was placed into an F-19 to see if it fit.

Apparently the photos do not re-post ... or at least I'm ignorant.
But on 5/31/12 I posted photos of the old and new headliner and also the headliner set into a F-19 fuselage. Follow the F-19 Headliner thread back and see the photos.

I have decided I am the worst guy ever at following up messages and posts....business gets in the way of hobbies.

[Ragwing nut]

Re: F-19 Headliner

have you trial fit it yet?

[Mark Julicher]

Re: F-19 Headliner

OK, Back from road trip so here is the skinny on F-19 headliners.

I have about 15 vacu-formed parts for the AFT headliner of the F-19. These are made of black ABS and heavier duty than the original. The male mold was digitized from an original part. This is pretty tough plastic and won't shatter like an old, dried-out. original

I figure I will keep one for my SLOW project. The rest are available at $50 plus shipping. At current prices the shipping will probably cost more than the part.

[White Knuckle Aviation]

Re: F-19 Headliner

Mark:

The next time I remove/reinstall my headliner will likely be the last time -- it's getting to be quite brittle. The proposed pricing you cited for a new one a while back didn't scare me then; any update on pricing and availability today?

Rodney

[Kyle Nelson]

Re: F-19 Headliner

Hi,
I'm interested in a F19 head liner. Looks like you posted this about 15 years ago. Any chance you still have any or could give me an idea on how to proceed or find one.
Thanks,
Kyle

[Mark Julicher]

Re: F-19 Headliner

My old shabby headliner has a couple cut-outs near the center where it must have been fastened to the top of the plane or to the front headliner.

I don't believe this will fit a '41 ??? It is a copy of the headliner over the extended baggage area of the 19.

It would be a simple matter to fabricate an attachment to an adel clamp, or to make a stiffener. For example, the new plastic is thick enough to accept a screw through it into a batten.

I have a new respect for the moulded plastic business. It took a couple of man-days to fabricate the mould and therein lies 90% of the cost of doing business. I was lucky enough to have given flying lessons to a guy that runs a plastics fab shop. Without that connection (and the poor economy) he would have turned me down -- a fabrication run of only 15 was not in his best interest. And I suppose that with a potential market of 4 I will chalk most of the cost up to education no worries.

[Larry Lyons]

Re: F-19 Headliner

Nice work Mark! Is there something there to support the center where it sags when fully installed? Something like that would be nice for my old 41 BC, cover up unsightly stuff and easy to clean. I could see that for the whole headliner as you could mold it very close to the existing tubing, leaving more room in the cabin. However probably heavier then the cloth and certainly heavier then nothing, which is what I currently plan.
L