Gascolator mount?

[t30mg]

I have a '41 T. and we have the interior going together.
Were does the gascolator mount?

Thanks again....

[3Dreaming]

Re: Gascolator mount?

It mounts on the short stub tube on the lower left of the engine mount.

[t30mg]

Re: Gascolator mount?

Got it, thanks alot.
This forum is great!

[VictorBravo]

Re: Gascolator mount?

It mounts on the short stub tube on the lower left of the engine mount.

Yep, right near the hot exhaust system.

If you use this (correct) place to mount the gascolator, please put a couple of layers of the "header wrap" or "exhaust wrap" on the exhaust pipe in that area. It's not expensive, any hotrod or race car shop can probably sell you a couple of feet. Just wrap it around the exhaust pipe and hold it on with a coupe of loops of safety wire.

This takes one more potential safety problem out of the equation, at a cost of a couple of dollars and ten minutes' time.

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Gascolator mount?

I'll see if I can get a couple of shots of my gascolator too. You can see how NOT to run the primer lines! I have a LOT of firewall forward work to do before I fly again. The more I look the worse it gets.
I REALLY want to fly this spring, but I am getting closer and closer to pulling everything off FWF and redoing the whole mess before I blow myself up.
Hank

[Robert Lees]

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Bill, if I may be so impolite, you need to reel your neck in occasionally. There is no record on file of a Taylorcraft crashing because the gascolator was too close to the exhaust.

There was also no record of a Taylorcraft crashing because the fuel pipe from the wing tank to the fuselage tank ruptured.

No puppies were ever injured during these non-events. No primary schools, Nunneries, old people's homes, or even anyones pet puppy was threatened or injured by any of these non-events.

Hank, can I come over to your place and hide behind the sofa?

[Hank Jarrett]

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Never happened on a Taylorcraft, but I lost a friend in a WW-I replica that did a flaming comet crash from a cracked fuel line. Still causes nightmares.
I think Bill is talking about reducing a risk, not preventing a second fire. Taylorcrafts are very safe planes in spite of some "interesting design features" like funky fuel system designs.

Unrelated, you are welcome behind my sofa any time, but there is a nice guest bedroom available. Must be an English thing. ;-)

You don't mind night visits by an Irish Setter do you?

Hank

[VictorBravo]

Re: Gascolator mount?

Bill, if I may be so impolite, you need to reel your neck in occasionally. There is no record on file of a Taylorcraft crashing because the gascolator was too close to the exhaust.

There was also no record of a Taylorcraft crashing because the fuel pipe from the wing tank to the fuselage tank ruptured.

No puppies were ever injured during these non-events. No primary schools, Nunneries, old people's homes, or even anyones pet puppy was threatened or injured by any of these non-events.

Hank, can I come over to your place and hide behind the sofa?

Reel it in... how do you think I always get cost-free shaves courtesy of other people's razors?

I'm not disputing the lack of T-craft burn incidents at all, or lack of fuel line ruptures. I also have no knowledge of a Taylorcraft doing that. But there's always a first time, and the benefit to cost ratio is pretty high in favor of adding a bit of protection against a "million to one" scenario.

It's sort of the same thing as the old concept of putting in a bolt from the top or front whenever possible. Not many have actually fallen out when installed upside down, but it's just good practice to install them so as to stack the odds a little bit further in favor of safety.

No need to hide behind anyone's sofa... even if I were in a combative mood I've got the OTHER 90% of the internet aviation world shouting in front of my castle with torches because of my flap product promotional efforts. I've actually "built a better mousetrap" and they're indeed "beating a path" - but they're using my head as the tool to beat the a path !

[Robert Lees]

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Yes, there's always a first time..like the Dave Wiley incident.

But there's no reason to start scaremongering about the "what if's" if after your "73 years and counting" and 9000 or so Taylorcraft we have no records, MOR, SDR etc referring to a problem that doesn't exist.

Your flap handle mod is indeed a case where poor design has allowed you to develop a better product (or adaptation of an existing one), and well done for so doing. It does not mean that the existing one was full of faults.

[VictorBravo]

Re: Gascolator mount?

Didn't mean to scaremonger at all. My sincerest apologies to all if it came off that way. Perhaps I was a bit too paranoid about fuel lines and fuel leaks, that are indeed not common or even heard of in the Taylorcraft. That paranoia works for me, and I felt safer in my own airplane for doing extra little things like that, but it is not incumbent on anyone else.

I will however stand by the overall mind-set of taking as many failure modes as possible out of the equation, and being prepared for them to happen anyway.

[Hank Jarrett]

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Bill,
Well that was how I took it (recommending something to improve safety, not scaremongering) but I can see how it could be read the other way too.

Of course I'm not the best to compare to. I have a bit of a reputation for pushing safety to the limit too.

Hank

The space behind the sofa is open to you too, but the guest bedroom really is more comfortable.

[VictorBravo]

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The space behind the sofa is open to you too .

So you want me to be sleeping behind the couch with an Englishman, eh? And they say us from Hollywood are supposed to be the strange ones...

[Hank Jarrett]

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Just figured you would want to feel at home. If all my Taylorcraft buddies show up at once I figure one of the sofas will be mine.
Hank
Dog licks my face if I sleep on the floor.

[Robert Lees]

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Well it could be worse

[Ron Coleman]

Re: Gascolator mount?

If I felt a need to keep gas off of the exhaust pipe, I would use a sheet metal stand off. I would not wrap the pipe with something which would cause a hot spot or a flame holder. Gas on the pipe would blow out or burn off, gas or engine oil collecting in the fibre insulation may become a furnace.