I am now approved!

[Scott]

Ok I guess I misunderstood the objective and the rules. I'll try to explain:

Compliance with the 2020 requirement, which is for ADS-B out only, can be achieved:
via a Mode S transponder coupled to a Waas GPS,
or
by a Mode C transponder/ UAT combination (limiting your Taylorcraft to 18000ft lol)

Not exactly sure why there would be such strict data integrity requirements on transponders and not UAT, but perhaps that's yet to come.

Don't need either if you're not interested in Class C airspace (or if you're Marty hehe)

Anyway my KT76A was working perfectly but was over 20 years old, so I suppose replacing it is not too much of a heartache.

The Uavionix is $1850 which seems reasonable for those without a WAAS data source. Perhaps prices will get better as there seems to be some competition in this space.

But I already have a WAAS GPS so for another $177 the TT31 gets me compliance, and installation was easy. I also don't need to remember to turn my transponder on and off any more... one less thing.

I have a TT21 in my Taylorcraft powered by a lithium battery, but no nav lights. What I'll need is a WAAS data source if and when I decide to install ADS-B out.

These Trig transponders have very low power requirements which is why I chose the TT21, along with knowledgeable support from Trig.

I have no skin in this game, just sharing information.


By the way if anyone is looking for an excellent KT76A, no rack, perfect bezel send me a pm.
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[woodmw]

Dave,

Won't you have to add another strobe to the other wingtip to be 'legal'?


Tim,

Sorry about the highjack of your thread. Maybe this discussion will give you some ideas to convince non-electric system aircraft owners to install.

[Guest]

Dave,

Won't you have to add another strobe to the other wingtip to be 'legal'?


Tim,

Sorry about the highjack of your thread. Maybe this discussion will give you some ideas to convince non-electric system aircraft owners to install.

Tim, ditto what Mike said

Mike,

I wondered about the legalities also and do not know the answer.

I did a really quick investigation last week and found no issue but it was not a complete search.

So I am thinking about it.

Dave R.

[3Dreaming]

I would think the strobe on both sides would only be required if you were using them to meet the requirements for night flight. Anything to improve safety, even if it is only a strobe visible from one side, is a good thing.

[astjp2]

Dave,

Won't you have to add another strobe to the other wingtip to be 'legal'?


Tim,

Sorry about the highjack of your thread. Maybe this discussion will give you some ideas to convince non-electric system aircraft owners to install.

Realistically there is no requirement, but I have seen a ads-b unit that you can put on the dash and its the size of a pack of cigarettes that can do an Out signal. The big problems is to keep it powered, I run a battery operated micro-air radio and I built a portable transponder to get me across the border...both run on battery, 3 days for the radio with a newer battery, never got that far with the transponder. If you can solar power an ADS-B out, it would make it easier to transition more complex airspace, that would be the only reason I see. It might also be helpful in counteracting the DEA flagging your aircraft because it has an identifier. Tim

[Guest]

The battery that I have for the starter is an Odyssey and I recall it being 15 amp hours or more. It has a lot of energy for me to draw from.

Most folks may not have a starter battery though.

At 1/8 amp. draw I could use about 10% of the battery capacity to run skyBeacon 12 hours on ADS-b out only.

[LostnSpace]

Dr. Tim, could you tell us the name of the small ads-b unit, I am putting a C-90-12F in the T and it'll have a 35 A alternator on it so it'll have the power needed, thanks

[astjp2]

Dr. Tim, could you tell us the name of the small ads-b unit, I am putting a C-90-12F in the T and it'll have a 35 A alternator on it so it'll have the power needed, thanks

Well I am not sure if that portable ever made it into production. It was going to be a product of ADS-B Technologies out of Anchorage but I have not seen the status on their products in a decade. A lot of companies were born and died in the last decade due to some big companies getting patents and issues with licensing the rights. The owner was big into incorporating ADS-B into China since they were building their first real general aviation infrastructure. I just installed an Echo for a guy, but I don't think that it is certified for certificated aircraft. Do you have lights? You don't have to run the strobe, The sky beacon can run off the nav light power. I really dont see prices coming down either. So don't wait until the last minute. Tim

Here is a portable one that I was talking about: THeir website sucks but if someone wants me to pursue finding out for an installation for them, I will. http://www.ads-b.com/LISTgallery3.htm

[LostnSpace]

Thank you

[astjp2]

Thank you

Do you want me to pursue this? if so what do you have for installed equipment? and I will need you to PM me your aircraft information so I can submit a 337, once its approved, we can order the equipment and install. Tim

[LostnSpace]

I just got a big poster from uAvionics stating I am an approved installer, Dr. Tim, did you get one also?

[astjp2]

Nope no poster yet

[astjp2]

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