required DOCs

[swoeric]

I am about as clear as mud so far. I am trying to get my ducks in a row and make the most complete plane I can

bc12 with gross weight increase and 85 hp with extended motor mount and electric


Registration original i know i need
My panel and gauges are marked for rpm and speeds


I know I need a weight and balance (who is authorized to make it official)
I know I need to chase down the equipment list when original and then when the stc was put in place and then for each 337 performed since then

I have some paper work labeled f19 I will scann all that was in the plane



What else?

[swoeric]

Re: required DOCs

I was just given some help and will update my process as i go. Here is what Ive had if anybody wanted a copy

[swoeric]

Re: required DOCs

So I dug through the box at home and when at the plane tonight I found the blue prints for Gilbert stc. Also prints for floats and I believe aditional prints from the factory.. I hope to find a large scanner soon so that I can make digital copies before they deteriorate too far

Also when at the plane I have the placard that describes the plane was built to a f19

Also have a one time stc for conversion to a f19 or to be used as a bc12 85f

When at work I'll upload the manuals I have as well

[astjp2]

Re: required DOCs

Fedex Kinkos, not cheap either...and an IA can certify a weight and balance..all of the placards called out in the TC

[3Dreaming]

Re: required DOCs

It doesn't need to be a IA, any A&P should be able to do the weight and balance for you. If you actually need to weigh the airplane it might be harder to find someone with scales. Our EAA chapter has several home builders and restorers. The chapter purchased a set of aircraft scales for the members to use.

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: required DOCs

I went to Target and got three $20 scales and they gave me the same weights as the fancy ones, but are not certified. Nice for a verification at each annual. If the weight and CG are different from last year I start looking for why. They are accurate enough to show a weight shift from one gear to another if there is a BIG dobber nest in a wing tip. The weight doesn't change much but the moment arm shows a main mount bias.

Hank

[swoeric]

Re: required DOCs

so here is the wrench.. one time stc for this plane to be considered model 19 or bc 12 85.. should i carry the 19 information in the plane then.



also looking back at one point the plane was blue and had a 2ft speaker in the baggage compartment as a public address system

[astjp2]

Re: required DOCs

Its still a BC12-85, just has the attributes of a model 19, so the BC documents should be what you want.

[astjp2]

Re: required DOCs

It doesn't need to be a IA, any A&P should be able to do the weight and balance for you. If you actually need to weigh the airplane it might be harder to find someone with scales. Our EAA chapter has several home builders and restorers. The chapter purchased a set of aircraft scales for the members to use.

I am usually doing the weight and balance because of a modification, that is why I said IA...

[3Dreaming]

Re: required DOCs

I am usually doing the weight and balance because of a modification, that is why I said IA...

You do the modification and weighing as a A&P. You approve for return to service as a IA. The privileges of a IA are pretty limited.

https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=74d9c486792f1f1406e6b3f95f50cdfd&mc=true&node=se14.2.65_195&rgn=div8

The link was for others who might be interested.

[mikerice]

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I agree with Dr. Tim,

The data plate shows that your aircraft was a BC12D, modified to a Model 19 configuration (probably by the Gilberti STC), which is different than a F-19. The model BC12D-85 is a continuation model under the CAR3 Type Certificate A-696, but the Model 19, the F-19 and all the F-xx derivatives are under the TCDS 1A9.

What Gilberti was doing as the Taylorcraft designer was providing a way via STC to make a few modifications that increased gross weight and performance to close to the Model 19. The problem is that you cannot modify an aircraft by STC from TC A-696 to another Type Certificate 1A9, so your aircraft has to remain a BC12D, albeit modified. Your FAA Registration and A/W Cert should be for a BC12D, not a Model 19 or F-19.

[N96337]

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Mike's right on the money! It is and always will be a BC12. You most likely will have some operation parameters that are specified in the STC that need to be carried. The STC will call that out. If it's done by the Gilbertti STC, there's a flight manual update, if I remember.
The ones that drive me nuts with that is the guys that put conventional gear on a TriPacer.... They insist that it's now a Pacer. Nope...and it's not a PA22/20 either....it is and always will be a PA-22.

[PA1195]

Re: required DOCs

If unsure about documentation why not contact the current STC SA1-210 owner for details: http://dc65stc.blogspot.com/2010/09/...ts-offers.html

Not sure about the deviations listed in the one time STC SA1256EA for S/N 8612.

Gary