Doors for 41 tcraft

[TC747paul]

All
I am looking for a set of doors for a 41 tcraft
I live west of chicago
thanks
Paul

[3Dreaming]

Re: Doors for 41 tcraft

Which style door do you need? They used at least 2 in 1941, and they are not interchangeable.

[TC747paul]

Re: Doors for 41 tcraft

i am kind of new to this so i am not sure
could i send you some pictures of the existing doors that might help??
is there anything i could look at that would tell you which version??
thanks

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Doors for 41 tcraft

Photos would help a lot. You might have tube and fabric (and there are two types of them), wood, or if there have been modifications sheet metal.

Hank

[Ragwing nut]

Re: Doors for 41 tcraft

Do you have the half moon panel with large tach or do you have the d shaped panel with the small instruments

[TC747paul]

Re: Doors for 41 tcraft

I will try to post pictures. The existing doors look home built. Will aluminum pop riveted to outside.
Thanks
Paul

[TC747paul]

Re: Doors for 41 tcraft

I will try to post pictures. The existing doors look home built. Will aluminum pop riveted to outside.
Thanks
Paul

[TC747paul]

Re: Doors for 41 tcraft

Small instruments and it originally had banjo's if that helps

Thanks
Paul

[NC36061]

Re: Doors for 41 tcraft

Paul,

Banjo yokes imply a B*12-65 Deluxe, although someone could have replaced yokes at some point. What is your N #/serial #/ model # on the data plate? IF you have a '41 B*12-65 Deluxe, those had wooden doors originally. They are the same shape as all other pre-war doors, but for sure at least the latches are different and wouldn't match up to the fuselage. I doubt you would find serviceable replacements, check with Tom Baker here on this forum, he may have blueprints for the wooden doors. Yes, pop rivets sound home-made, or at least someone re-skinned steel tube B*-65 non-Deluxe doors and modified the fuselage to make them work. Pics would be very helpful.

Dave

[astjp2]

Re: Doors for 41 tcraft

I have one metal door frame you can use for a pattern. Tim

[TC747paul]

Re: Doors for 41 tcraft

Thanks dave
Tom contacted me and is seeing if he can scan drawings.
sad thing is the banjos and tcraft nose trim was cut off the plane by someone who broke into the hanger while plane was in Wisconsin.
I am still trying to figure out how add picture to the reply. The N number is N29747 i am traveling and don't have serial number with me. Thanks again. Paul

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Doors for 41 tcraft

She is SN 2594 and is a 41 BC12-65. Should have originally had the wood doors. I have the wood door drawings but you need to be forewarned, you better be a real professional wood worker to build them.....and the fixtures to build them in.
I tore mine completely down and rebuilt them. I didn't have fixtures so I used the fuselage as a fixture to get the pieces all back together right. It was a LOT of work. If you decide to take it on, the advice and lessons learned are free. IL to VA is a bit far, but not impossible.

Hank

[TC747paul]

Re: Doors for 41 tcraft

Hank
I would like to give it a go, i have a close friend who owns a custom cabinet shop
Tom was working on getting a drawing from his Dad, if he still has a copy

i will gladly pay for a copy i also have the ability to scan large format sheets for copy or PDF

what is on the outside? wood, fabric or aluminum??

thanks for your help and let me know what i might need to do in order to get a copy of the door plans

thanks again
Paul

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Doors for 41 tcraft

The inner and outer skins are thin Ply. The interior structure is built up from square and rectangular wood. There is also a bad weak spot in the design. The fore and aft vertical wood window frames are too weak. When I rebuilt mine I put Carbon tape over the wood frame and put the ply over the tape (sandwiched in). My window frames are strong as stink now. HIGHLY recommended! I also used "T" nuts and machine screws instead of wood screws into the frame. MUCH stronger and the T nuts are hidden under teh fabric.
Once you get the drawings (I should still have mine too if you have problems getting them) remember your doors will NOT necessarily be just like the drawings. I made up the door frames in the fuselage and custom fitted the doors to the frames. My doors sound like a 1950s Buick when they close now. Really a SOLID sound.

Hank

[3Dreaming]

Re: Doors for 41 tcraft

The outer door skin should be fabric covered plywood.