BC 65 upper wood parts

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: BC 65 upper wood parts

Private message sent. If anyone else has their wood parts off the plane please chime in. I will try to determine if the wood was custom to each plane or standardized and make up a drawing to build new pieces.
I will also be doing a drawing of the 45 factory skylight and how the wood differs to put one in. The metal skylight strips were cut from an extrusion but it looks like it can be done with two pieces riveted together if the extrusion isn't made anymore.

Hank

[Ragwing nut]

Re: BC 65 upper wood parts

Private message sent. If anyone else has their wood parts off the plane please chime in. I will try to determine if the wood was custom to each plane or standardized and make up a drawing to build new pieces.
I will also be doing a drawing of the 45 factory skylight and how the wood differs to put one in. The metal skylight strips were cut from an extrusion but it looks like it can be done with two pieces riveted together if the extrusion isn't made anymore.

Hank

wood was standard to each model and production period from what I have seen, and I have seen my share of them apart. I have never seen any "fitting" marks on any piece I removed that I can remember.

[Pat M]

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Hank, just wondering if you got any info back on those upper wood parts yet?

[Hank Jarrett]

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The weather here has REALLY SUCKED lately so I haven't been out to the airport for a while. The rotten weather is pretty wide spread this winter. I called my IA yesterday and hope we can meet out at the hangar soon for my annual sign off. Lee Nicklas offered to send me a tracing of his front wood piece and I will try fitting it to my 45. Hope to have some sketches soon (I think Debbie is tired of all the rotten, broken wood pieces and the busted skylight laid out on the guest bed anyway).

Hank

[Leenicklas]

Re: BC 65 upper wood parts

I actually sent the two pieces to Hank so he could make a drawing. Lee Nicklas

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: BC 65 upper wood parts

Haven't seen anything yet, but with the way our area reacts to a couple of inches of snow that isn't surprising. The whole city grinds (OK, slides) to a stop with a dusting we would have never bothered to scrape up back in Nebraska. They close the schools here because it snows someplace else!
I will give a shout when the parts get here and will go to the 45 and test fit the "chunks". If it does NOT fit, I will make one for the 45 and do a drawing of both for the tribe. That should at least give anyone else a starting point. Hope the broken one fits! Sure would be nice if they were the same on all the planes.

Hank

Looking around now for the extrusions for the metal parts but it doesn't look promising. My have to design a simplified replacement using the FAA Advisory Circular AC 43.13.

[Hank Jarrett]

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I got the front wood piece from Lee Nicklas and the good (no GREAT!) news is it looks like they were made on a tool to make them as near identical as a wood part can be. I hope to get some wood today and start making a replacement to verify the drawing which will be posted for anyone else who needs to make one.

That brings me to the second part. I have several broken side pieces, but every one of them is missing the back part (from the hole for the fourth tab aft). The other bad news is the side pieces ARE NOT the same from plane to plane or side to side. The cut out at the front seems to be "tweaked" to clear the welds on installation. I plan to just put the contours for each one I can find on the drawing or just put the one with the most wood and indicate it can be carved away to fit.

Does anyone have a side piece above the doors they can photograph or trace? If not, can someone at least measure the full length so I can figure out the contour by putting a partially made one on the plane and shaping it to fit? I know some photos have been posted of them, but I haven't found them yet.

Hank

[Hank Jarrett]

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I found these two photos of some absolutely BEAUTIFUL wood work in the area needed, but it is NOT the original design as I remember it (actually, looks like a BETTER design to me, but not the way Taylorcraft did it). My 41 DID NOT have the wood cross piece at the rear spar attach (but I like it) and the side pieces are MUCH thicker than any I have here (which is a good thing when you put the bands on). You can see that on this plane the side pieces only seem to run a short distance aft of the 4th bolt tab hole and the contour is picked up by the wedge shaped piece on the top of the longeron in the photo. I am pretty sure this plane must have gotten a full skylight when covered.
Anyone know whose plane it is? It might be the one Ray Bozella rebuilt, but I'm not sure. I don't remember Ray's plane having that mag switch.

Hank

[PA1195]

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http://www.taylorcraft.org.uk/fus-reassembly3.jpg

Gary

[Hank Jarrett]

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Thanks Gary. Now I know who I got the photos from! ;-)
I assume you did end up putting in a full skylight.

Hank

[Robert Lees]

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..
Anyone know whose plane it is? .

Hank

The left picture is my BC12D, Hank. The side pieces (between the front & rear spar attach points) are to attach the Clayton skylight. Plywood inside (for later attachment of the interior fabric) and ash outside (to screw down the glass roof). Balsa spacers in between.

Rob


[edit]...as is the single picture in your last post
[2nd edit]: more photos about 1/4 down this link: http://www.taylorcraft.org.uk/Brey_r...structural.htm

[PA1195]

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I was just the messenger. Not many have a garage door and wall nearby that look similar in both pics. Beautiful work and a very nice Taylorcraft Blog for those of us who haven't the experience in restoring one (or more): http://www.taylorcraft.org.uk

Gary

PS: I see G. Clayton has flaps plus the extendable inboard cuff I mentioned in another post on his experimental T-Craft (N50123) here in Fairbanks, AK. He's quite the inventor.

[Robert Lees]

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...Beautiful work and a very nice Taylorcraft Blog for those of us who haven't the experience in restoring one (or more): http://www.taylorcraft.org.uk

Gary....

Thanks Gary, it goes like sh!t off a shovel with the C85 with the O-200 crank etc mods.

Rob

[Hank Jarrett]

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Aw crud! I already knew Robert was an artist with wood working. I was kind of hoping the photos were from Gary so we could claim another great wood worker. I did notice in the side pieces had a space between them when I blew the first photos up. At first it looked like one REALLY WIDE piece of wood.
How did you get the plexi (Perspex?) to bend in two directions when you put it in? The wood makes it curve from side to side and front to back. On mine the transparency is broken into multiple pieces with wood supports crossing in the middle.

Hank

[PA1195]

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Thanks Gary, it goes like sh!t off a shovel with the C85 with the O-200 crank etc mods.

Rob

Brief thread drift...my 85>0-200 conversion and MOH should be done in a couple of weeks. http://www.customaircraftak.com is doing the work. In addition to the AES STC it has a relatively open C-150 exhaust and Marvel carb with free-flowing Donaldson air filter (http://www.donaldson.com/en/aircraft...ary/007217.pdf).

Those Brackett foam filters many prefer cost at least 1/2" of MP and 30-40 static rpm on my former C-90 PA-11 as determined by an accurate optical tach. Plus they tend to cut flow when wet like on floats or flying in mixed precip unlike K&N or Donaldsons.

Maintaining the analogy, it'll go like a bone out a dog's butt.

Ok, back to normal topic.

Gary