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    Mag Check
    March 26, 2018 / Mike Busch / 9 Comments

    Mag Switch If you fly a piston-powered aircraft, you undoubtedly were taught to perform a “mag check” during the pre-takeoff runup. But do you know how to do it correctly, what to look for, and how to interpret the results? Surprisingly, many pilots don’t.

    To begin with, most POHs instruct you to note the RPM drop when you switch from both mags to just one, and give some maximum acceptable drop. In my view, this archaic procedure makes little sense for aircraft that are equipped with a digital engine monitor (as most are these days).

    EGT rise is a far better indicator of proper ignition performance than RPM drop. Watching EGT on the engine monitor during the pre-flight mag check tells you exactly which spark plug and cylinder is having a problem. So my advice is to focus primarily on the engine monitor, not the tachometer, when performing the mag check.
    What to look for

    JPI EDM 830What you should be looking for is all EGT bars rising and none falling when you switch from both mags to one mag. The EGT rise will typically be 50 to 100 degrees F, but the exact amount of rise is not critical. It’s perfectly normal for the rise to be a bit different for odd- and even-numbered cylinders.

    You should also be looking for smooth engine operation and stable EGT values when operating on each magneto individually. A falling or erratic EGT bar or rough engine constitutes a “bad mag check” and warrants further troubleshooting of the ignition system before flying.
    Bad mag or bad plug?

    Magneto The “mag check” is poorly named, because because the vast majority of “bad mag checks” are caused by spark plug problems, not magneto problems. We really should be calling it an “ignition system check” but the “mag check” terminology is deeply entrenched in pilot lingo, so I’m not going to try to fight that battle.

    How can you tell if the culprit is the plugs or the mags? Simple: A faulty spark plug affects only one cylinder (and one EGT bar on your engine monitor), while a faulty magneto affects all cylinders (and all EGT bars).

    If you get an excessive RPM drop when you switch to one mag, but the EGTs all rise and the engine runs smooth, chances are that it’s not a bad mag but rather retarded ignition timing. This is often caused by mechanic error in timing the mags during maintenance, although it is possible for ignition timing to drift out of spec due to cam follower wear or some other internal magneto issue. Retarded ignition timing also results in higher-than-usual EGT indications.

    Conversely, advanced ignition timing results in lower-than-usual EGT indications, and also higher-than-usual CHT indications. Advanced timing is a much more serious condition because it can lead to detonation, pre-ignition, and serious engine damage. If you observe low EGTs and high CHTs after an aircraft comes out of maintenance, do not fly until you’ve had the ignition timing re-checked. Advanced timing is easily detected with an engine monitor, but you won’t be able to detect it if you’re just looking for RPM drop.
    Do it aloft!

    Mooney The usual pre-flight mag check is a relatively non-demanding test, and will only detect gross defects in the ignition system. To make sure your engine’s ignition is in tip-top shape, I strongly recommend performing an in-flight mag check every few flights.

    The in-flight mag check is performed at normal cruise power and normal lean mixture (preferably LOP). Run the engine on each individual mag for at least 15 or 20 seconds. Ensure that all EGTs rise, that they are stable, and that the engine runs smoothly on each mag individually. If you see a falling or unstable EGT, write down which cylinder and which mag, otherwise you’ll probably forget which plug is the culprit by the time you land.

    Because a lean mixture is much harder to ignite than a rich one, an in-flight LOP mag check is the most demanding and discriminating way to test your ignition system, and will expose subtle flaws and marginal ignition performance that are undetectable during the usual on-the-ground pre-flight mag check. It’s by far the best way to detect ignition system problems early, before they reach the point of delaying your departure or soiling your underwear.
    N29787
    '41 BC12-65

  • #2
    Re: From the annuals of AOPA

    I read just read that article. Can't find the glass panel, EGT's or CHT gauges in my 71 year old airplane. Busch took some crap over some of this in the comment section.
    Cheers,
    Marty


    TF #596
    1946 BC-12D N95258
    Former owner of:
    1946 BC-12D/N95275
    1943 L-2B/N3113S

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    • #3
      Re: From the annuals of AOPA

      Actually a good article if you have an engine monitor, which few of us do, but it would be good info for use on the ground when there seems to be a problem. It is really hard to trace down a "mag" problem when things just go "a little" wrong and troubleshooting ism't getting you to a cause. If your mechanic can rig something up to have an analyzer to check EGT and CHT on the ground it could make it a LOT more comfortable to fly when you suddenly have been getting twice the drop on a mag check and can't find the reason.

      Hank

      Not saying I have ANY idea how to put a CHT and EGT on a 65 on the ground only. ;-) Maybe use one of those hand held remote temp sensors for the CHT? Anyone know how to measure EGT without drilling a hole in the exhaust?

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      • #4
        Re: From the annuals of AOPA

        You can use the same infrared temp gun to check the exterior of the exhaust pipe. I have used one for years now when troubleshooting a mag or rough running engine.

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        • #5
          Re: From the annuals of AOPA

          Anyone ever try checking how accurate the temp gun is compared to a probe? Thinking about it, if you test at just past the weld between the flange and tube (on the thin part) the pipe SHOULD be close to the exhaust temp.

          Hank

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          • #6
            Re: From the annuals of AOPA

            Would the accuracy of the temp gun be important. Ive always just looked for the the cylinder that was colder than the rest?
            L Fries
            N96718
            TF#110

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            • #7
              Re: From the annuals of AOPA

              Emissivity would be off with the temp gun...on a hot stainless pipe

              Just ohm out your plugs and put a megger to test your wires, if they are good, its the mag
              N29787
              '41 BC12-65

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              • #8
                Re: From the annuals of AOPA

                Originally posted by lfries View Post
                Would the accuracy of the temp gun be important. Ive always just looked for the the cylinder that was colder than the rest?
                Exactly!! Don't make a big deal out of a simple troubleshoot! I use a spray bottle of water.
                John
                I'm so far behind, I think I'm ahead

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                • #9
                  Re: From the annuals of AOPA

                  In the OLD days we used a grease pencil on each exhaust stack. The one that doesn't melt is the "cold" cylinder. Make sure your messing with the correct mag. "P" leads get switched. Just saying.
                  Later,
                  Mike

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                  • #10
                    Re: From the annuals of AOPA

                    "How can you tell if the culprit is the plugs or the mags? Simple: A faulty spark plug affects only one cylinder (and one EGT bar on your engine monitor), while a faulty magneto affects all cylinders (and all EGT bars)"

                    Rubbish!

                    Seen lots of defective mags that only affect one cylinder especially on higher service ceiling aircraft. Usually caused by carbon tracks/HT shorts. Can also be a defective HT wire or terminal i.e. not always a spark plug.

                    "Advanced timing is easily detected with an engine monitor, but you won’t be able to detect it if you’re just looking for RPM drop"

                    Rubbish 2! Advanced timing shows up as less than normal RPM drop or no RPM drop. Easy peezy lemon squeezy
                    Scott
                    CF-CLR Blog: http://c-fclr.blogspot.ca/

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