NC-36296 Jarrett 41 BL (BC) 12-65 Deluxe

[Hank Jarrett]

Chuck and Shannon are in Virginia Beach for a visit and some major advancements in getting the 41 Deluxe back in the air!
To start, looks like all the old past posts on the 41 were lost in the last server crash. I will try to reconstruct and find the old photos of my girl when she was the lead pig at the state fair (International Harvester Tractor Orange with Forest Green trim....BLEA!!) She is in her new Taylorcraft Ivory with Maroon trim now with the ENGINE HUNG! Soon baby soon!
Thanks a million for all the help to Chuck and Shannon. Our sore backs will recover soon! Tomorrow is the first day of the Virginia Stage Fly-in and I finally have a plane that is presentable for the flight line.
If you come to the fly-in drop by hangar D-3 for burgers and dogs. We will have the grill out.
Hank

[VanDy]

Re: NC-36296 Jarrett 41 BL (BC) 12-65 Deluxe

Looking great Hank!

[mike lutz]

Re: NC-36296 Jarrett 41 BL (BC) 12-65 Deluxe

That is a beautiful airplane.Wish I could come down there to the fly-in and see your airplane and meet you fellows.Have fun and post pict,s if you can.

[crispy critter]

Re: NC-36296 Jarrett 41 BL (BC) 12-65 Deluxe

Looking good hank...when a gonna test fly her? Drop in to west liberty,ky sometime and see me.

[biplanebob]

Re: NC-36296 Jarrett 41 BL (BC) 12-65 Deluxe

Beautiful restoration, I remember that airplane when it was owned by Jesse Jones and based at KLNS. Had a few rides in it, back when it was [QUOTE...International Harvester Tractor Orange with Forest Green trim....[/QUOTE]

[cubby]

Re: NC-36296 Jarrett 41 BL (BC) 12-65 Deluxe

Jarrett .,
your 41 looks very nice, I like the nose cowl grills ,I had them on my 1951 Taylorcraft Model 19 CF-XSU IN THE 1970S, But my new Taylorcraft ,came with out them ,it looks like something is missing, after having them ,any way have a great day Sir , Paul.H member 1103 .

Chuck and Shannon are in Virginia Beach for a visit and some major advancements in getting the 41 Deluxe back in the air!
To start, looks like all the old past posts on the 41 were lost in the last server crash. I will try to reconstruct and find the old photos of my girl when she was the lead pig at the state fair (International Harvester Tractor Orange with Forest Green trim....BLEA!!) She is in her new Taylorcraft Ivory with Maroon trim now with the ENGINE HUNG! Soon baby soon!
Thanks a million for all the help to Chuck and Shannon. Our sore backs will recover soon! Tomorrow is the first day of the Virginia Stage Fly-in and I finally have a plane that is presentable for the flight line.
If you come to the fly-in drop by hangar D-3 for burgers and dogs. We will have the grill out.
Hank

[Buell Powell]

Re: NC-36296 Jarrett 41 BL (BC) 12-65 Deluxe

Hey Hank,
Man, all that hard work to put her back to original really is nice. Can't wait to see pictures of the first flights!

[wmfife]

Re: NC-36296 Jarrett 41 BL (BC) 12-65 Deluxe

Hi, Hank,

And congratulations on restoring another of C.G.'s Finest! It looks like you're going to beat me out of the hangar and into the trophy room for sure. Several reasons and one thing I've been wanting to ask:

Are you A&P? I know you're everything else but still - somebody has to sign off on all this work. I can't even get trim & touchup work done on mine without it getting into the thousands. It's scandalous and if I can't do most of the work myself there isn't much hope for what once was a restoration of a nearly 100% original prewar bird. After buying all the NOS parts you can no longer even get I am finding myself 'all dressed up with no place to go...'

Open to suggestions. If you have any. Clock is ticking ... on me and the fabric.

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: NC-36296 Jarrett 41 BL (BC) 12-65 Deluxe

Hey Bill,

No, I don't have an A&P or an IA, but I do have several who are looking over my shoulder. You can do the work on your plane IF your mechanic is insuring you are doing it right. In some cases that means he stands next to you and watches every little thing you do. In others he is willing to let you do it and come in behind you and inspect it, but either way HIS signature is the one on the paperwork. Most of the guys I use actually ask me which way things are supposed to be. So many of the current A&Ps have never gotten to work on a tube-n-rag plane it is actually fun to work on something that isn't a Spam Can. When my plane is finished I will be able to apply for a repairman's certificate from the FAA that will allow me to do all the maintenance on THE ONE PLANE I rebuilt, but not the identical one right next to it (I really don't think there ever WERE two identical Taylorcrafts, even right off the production line).

The short answer is you need to find an A&P and IA who will work with you. I have at least three A&Ps who look at my plane before I cover ANYTHING up. I am paranoid that I will miss something (we all should be) and I even listen carefully to the nut ball IA who is on our field who keeps making unrequested input. Who knows, he might actually see something one day. ;-)

If we all had to pay for everything to be done by an A&P or IA none of us could afford to rebuild a plane. If my job didn't take so much time I would just get my A&P. A few of us have talked about it and considered just specializing in Taylorcrafts in the Tribe. Most of the guys I work with just love old planes and basically work for enough to buy the beer (AFTER we finish working).

Hank

If you find a good mechanic who loves our old planes you could offer to let him use the plane like a part owner. I don't know many of us who fly near enough to keep the moisture out of our old birds. The mechanics I know can't afford their own planes and would treat mine like their own. Couldn't ask for a better partner, and it is more fun to fly with a buddy.

[M Towsley]

Re: NC-36296 Jarrett 41 BL (BC) 12-65 Deluxe

Hank,

A repairman's certificate if for a homebuilt/experimental, not for certified aircraft. Unless yours is experimental. The Airbike I had, which was an E-LSA, I was able to get the repairman certificate but I was told not for a Taylorcraft, unless experimental. Hopefully Tom Baker, or someone else, can clarify if I am right or not.

[wmfife]

Re: NC-36296 Jarrett 41 BL (BC) 12-65 Deluxe

Thanks for the input, Hank. I agree none could afford to keep these at the going rates. Funny thing is, these guys aren't afraid to just say I don't know and I am still looking for answers to some pressing questions (like a gasket sealer for 0-145 heads & whether I even need one). Most times when they're stumped they refer me to this list! It's happened a few times and I have wished for a few more..

Yes I can always call them over to inspect my work. They've already made retro- log entries for minor stuff I did. But what do you do when your pane has actually been made dangerous to fly by those you trusted? They have the files on how to rig the struts but for some reason just didn't bother. I had to find out on my first solo flight. -Yikes! And the tailwheel leaf springs still a different story. They all acted so smug and never saw it was a down gripe. . .

So now with new management (the third since buying the plane) of the only shop on the field (a central hub for corporate jets and little else-) I begin anew. At least this was their best mech., an IA and we're on a first name basis. Still it's slow going.

The more I see the more careful I get. I guess that's just me. Spend more time in the books than at the hangar. Getting it right is no accident. Learned that as a Navy mech. Seen enough in my time. And too old to change now.

I hope that's a good thing.

(Edit: And BTW this guy weighs in the neighborhood of 300 lbs. So co-ownership not really an attractive option. Is all he can do to get inside it..)

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: NC-36296 Jarrett 41 BL (BC) 12-65 Deluxe

Bill, for you with a 41 Deluxe you shouldn't get any arguments when you go back to original. That's what I did on my 41. When in doubt, I ripped it out and went back to original. I shamelessly stole information from Tom Baker whenever I could. Someday I would like to be able to actually have a plane closer to original than his (might never happen, his is a beauty).
From the help he gave me and what I have researched on mine we should be able to show you how it was done at the factory.
Wish you lived closer to one of us.

Hank

Got to find out what that certification is for when you totally restore a plane that allows you to act as an A&P on the plane you restored. I know at the time I saw it, it allowed you to work on your own certified plane IF you completely rebuilt it. I have a feeling it is buried in the FARs like the exclusion for flying without an ELT if you are flying for training. Great bar bet. WHY anyone would take the ELT out for a training flight I don't know, but it IS in the FARs.

No, I don't remember where I saw it, but it blew my instructor away when I showed it to him.

No, we didn't remove the ELT.

[tcraft759]

Re: NC-36296 Jarrett 41 BL (BC) 12-65 Deluxe

Got to find out what that certification is for when you totally restore a plane that allows you to act as an A&P on the plane you restored. I know at the time I saw it, it allowed you to work on your own certified plane IF you completely rebuilt it. I have a feeling it is buried in the FARs like the exclusion for flying without an ELT if you are flying for training. Great bar bet. WHY anyone would take the ELT out for a training flight I don't know, but it IS in the FARs.


I'm not sure why you consider the FAR regarding ELTs is "buried", Hank, but it is FAR 91.207(f)(3) and is one of the questions on the FAA Knowledge Test. An ELT is not required to be installed in the aircraft for training within 50 NM of originating airport, and there have been interpretations that if one is installed, it need not be operative (if placarded).

Helen Brennan
ASEL, CFI, TW

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: NC-36296 Jarrett 41 BL (BC) 12-65 Deluxe

It is only buried if I can't remember where I saw it. ;-) That is the one I saw. I probably first found it while messing with the knowledge test.
Hank

[3Dreaming]

Re: NC-36296 Jarrett 41 BL (BC) 12-65 Deluxe

Hank, I don't think there is a repairman certificate for you to get. If you have kept track of your hours working on the plane and can get a recomendation from 1 or all of the A&P's who helped you might be able to get a sign off from the FAA to test for the A&P. There is a fellow up in out neck of the woods who is doing this based on the experience of rebuilding aircraft over the years.