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  • #31
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    The airplane was in first class shape from the former owner. He had always had it hangar ed in a VERY nice dry hangar, concrete floor at Akron airport near Buffalo. The log books were perfect from when it was delivered new. The rebuilder kept very extensive logs and records of purchases etc. The fellow who annualed it explained that if he did it the next time it would be cheaper as he would know the airplane better and the quality of the rebuild. He had the engine loose, put in new rubber mount inserts (cheap) and took the entire exhaust apart examined it carefully. Wheel bearings, compression, Timing, the whole nine yards. No other repairs were done as it needed none. I asked if I could be of help and he said yes but it would then cost me more. (His shop is always crowded and one could trip over something expensive or just be in the way. )The airplane was at his shop....a professional type operation for about a week. He said going thru the logs carefully was as important as the annual. Of course he is thinking liability and I don't blame him! He agreed, when I picked it up that the man had done a very nice job and that the logs were better than most. The engine did not need a wash down as it never leaked any oil and was as clean as when I bought it. I thought it would be 5-600 dollars tops, but then everything has increased so much in the last 20 years (with the exception of wages) that I wasn't too upset. He also explained the condition of the airplane over the phone to the new owner who then sent me a check sight unseen. He got a real nice airplane at a very fair price. Best,JC

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    • #32
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      Well everyone happy. Alls well that ends well for the parties involved.

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      • #33
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        Back to thread with weight... A 1940 or earlier is light..very light. Like if one can get 700 pounds (PLEASE JOIN IN MR BAKER!!!) you are doing REAL well. Go to early pics of a 1940 with silver wings and a dark Blue Fuselage. It was covered in 1.7 oz fabric.. have not seen another one like this.. it was done on a stamping issue on the fabric (again MR BAKER?) If you are at 800 pounds on a BC12 D after all these years your are doing well ..... And Don as nice as YOUR BC12-D is Very Well !!!

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        • #34
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          Jim, I don't know if you are talking about me or my dad. He is the one who goes by Mr. Baker. My 41 BL was within 3.5 pounds of what the original paperwork stated. I think the factory number was 689 and I was 692.5, but I did have the added ELT. I tried to keep everything original and used the minimum finish to get the job done. When I did it you could still get 1.7 oz certified fabric, which works OK for an airplane that weight and speed.

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          • #35
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            I found that my seat cushions weigh 18.5 lbs. I replaced them with throwable float cushions. They way 1.5 lbs a piece. 2 is sufficient for the pilot. Saving me 15 lbs.

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            • #36
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              Look in those old cushions for gold coins before you toss them someone must have been hiding something in there!

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              • #37
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                Originally posted by drude View Post
                Look in those old cushions for gold coins before you toss them someone must have been hiding something in there!
                it surprised me too, I figured only 10 lbs. Tomorrow I plan to get rid of the baggage sling.

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                • #38
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                  Baggage sling including wood to hold it up. 4.5 lbs.

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                  • #39
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                    Thought I would add my 2 cents to this. My BC12D came from the factory in 1946 with both wing tanks and wheel fenders with an empty weight of 783, when it was recovered in 1987 it came in at 785, not sure if that was calculated or scales. I will be putting it on scales this winter or spring just to see.
                    A&P/IA
                    Commercial ASEL/Instrument
                    N96999 '46 Taylorcraft BC-12D
                    N91467 Corvair Pietenpol
                    TF#1110 prev TF # 16

                    http://vansflyingservices.com

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                    • #40
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                      [N95083 857 lbs @ 16.19 in

                      J Stallings, Alva OK





                      QUOTE=TreeTopFlier;68611]Just curious.......on the BC12-D's out there......What is your empty weight. N43354 has a 65 Cont. with a metal prop and no wheel pants.
                      My empty weight is 802 pounds. I would think this shouldn't be too bad. With a gross of 1200, that leaves me almost 400 pounds to play with. The last 12-D I flew had an empty weight of 874 pounds. That seemed a little heavy to me. I have read of some empty weights being down around 750 pounds........I am not sure how you can restore one and end up that low. I also know a few pilots that overload their aircraft on a regular basis, claiming there is always a built in safety factor. (on a 65 year old airplane I feel that may pushing things). When I fly with an instructor.....he only weighs 145 pounds, I fly with empty wing tanks and only 10 gallons in the nose. With my 180 pounds That puts me at 1187. Add in 1 hand-held radio plus a few maps / tiedowns...etc in the bagage compartment, I am just under gross weight at takeoff. I have always believed the engineers set the gross weights for good reason. The only "built-in" safety factor I see.......If I do no other mods to the airplane....except add floats............the gross weight becomes 1280 pounds....(If I read that right). That would lead me to believe the ole gal has a little "extra" load carrying ability built in.......But not ment to be considered a "fudge" factor...... Just wondered what kind of weight restraints the rest of the Taylorcraft tribe is living with. I see the 1200 pound gross weight as the only drawback to an otherwise great airplane. It sure would have been nice if the standard GW would have been 1300 pounds.....OH...Well Nothings perfect....Thanks : Don in SC
                      >>>> BTW.....I have been trying to increase my useful load.........(trying to loose a little body fat) CAVU <<<<<[/QUOTE]

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                      • #41
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                        I lost thirty pounds by NOT looking at it as pounds lost, but Gallons lost. I lost 5 gallons around the middle to add almost a full wing tank of fuel!
                        Hank

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                        • #42
                          Re: BC12-D Empty weight.....

                          That's how I used to figure my flight time in the R-22
                          Pound a minute. If I lost 30 pounds I gave myself 30 more minutes
                          you get twice the return on investment with the T-carts...
                          1 Lb = 2 minutes (and usually better than that).

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