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  • BC12-D Empty weight.....

    Just curious.......on the BC12-D's out there......What is your empty weight. N43354 has a 65 Cont. with a metal prop and no wheel pants.
    My empty weight is 802 pounds. I would think this shouldn't be too bad. With a gross of 1200, that leaves me almost 400 pounds to play with. The last 12-D I flew had an empty weight of 874 pounds. That seemed a little heavy to me. I have read of some empty weights being down around 750 pounds........I am not sure how you can restore one and end up that low. I also know a few pilots that overload their aircraft on a regular basis, claiming there is always a built in safety factor. (on a 65 year old airplane I feel that may pushing things). When I fly with an instructor.....he only weighs 145 pounds, I fly with empty wing tanks and only 10 gallons in the nose. With my 180 pounds That puts me at 1187. Add in 1 hand-held radio plus a few maps / tiedowns...etc in the bagage compartment, I am just under gross weight at takeoff. I have always believed the engineers set the gross weights for good reason. The only "built-in" safety factor I see.......If I do no other mods to the airplane....except add floats............the gross weight becomes 1280 pounds....(If I read that right). That would lead me to believe the ole gal has a little "extra" load carrying ability built in.......But not ment to be considered a "fudge" factor...... Just wondered what kind of weight restraints the rest of the Taylorcraft tribe is living with. I see the 1200 pound gross weight as the only drawback to an otherwise great airplane. It sure would have been nice if the standard GW would have been 1300 pounds.....OH...Well Nothings perfect....Thanks : Don in SC
    >>>> BTW.....I have been trying to increase my useful load.........(trying to loose a little body fat) CAVU <<<<<

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    Re: BC12-D Empty weight.....

    Interesting... I would point out the L-2A and B's gross weight is 1320 lbs and 1325 for the L-2M. Same wing and tail, except wing was all wood. Hopefully someone else can jump in as to why there was a higher gross weight on these two. Though if I remember correctly my L-2B had a higher empty weight than either of my BC-12's.
    Cheers,
    Marty


    TF #596
    1946 BC-12D N95258
    Former owner of:
    1946 BC-12D/N95275
    1943 L-2B/N3113S

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    • #3
      Re: BC12-D Empty weight.....

      N43381 is a 1946 BC12D with an A65 Cont & metal prop, no wheel pants. It weighs 801lbs empty, and I consider that heavy.
      Richard Pearson
      N43381
      Fort Worth, Texas

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      • #4
        Re: BC12-D Empty weight.....

        Marty there was an uncovered L-2 wing at Forrest's a few months ago, and it was way heavier and beefier looking that our BC12D wing. More steel parts including a root rib, bigger drag wires, larger drag wire nipples, large pullies, spoiler box, and a more complex system in the wing for the jury strut just to name a few. I was really suprised how heavy it looked. Many parts seemed that way for crate assembly during the war...
        Ryan Newell
        1946 BC12D NC43754
        1953 15A N23JW
        TF#897

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        • #5
          Re: BC12-D Empty weight.....

          Thanks, Ryan. I don't know what the inside of either wing really looks like so that explains a lot. Probably explains the higher gross weight.
          Cheers,
          Marty


          TF #596
          1946 BC-12D N95258
          Former owner of:
          1946 BC-12D/N95275
          1943 L-2B/N3113S

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          • #6
            Re: BC12-D Empty weight.....

            my 2 BC12D's one an 85hp is 825ls...the 90hp one is 800lbs.

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            • #7
              Re: BC12-D Empty weight.....

              my BL/BC-65 is 748 with disk brakes and bush wheels no fuel 4 qt oil
              1940 BLT/BC65 N26658 SER#2000

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              • #8
                Re: BC12-D Empty weight.....

                Just curious is the 748 a calculated value or as weighed on a scale? Dave

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                • #9
                  Re: BC12-D Empty weight.....

                  On scale tail level with scale on all three wheels my plane has no upholstery jest nylon fabric seat sling wood floor no head liner 65hp no electric. In 1940 when it was new and had wood 83in prop and lycoming 0-145-a1 it was 654 lb on wheels and671 on herth skis at 1150 gw useful 496
                  1940 BLT/BC65 N26658 SER#2000

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                  • #10
                    Re: BC12-D Empty weight.....

                    Hey Chuck,

                    What did they leave off at the factory to get it down to those amazingly light weights? I am not saying it can't be done, but to get a BC12D down to that weight would mean it would really be stripped down. I would be curious how someone got it down to that weight. I am lugging around an extra 150 pounds compared to that. I have a metal prop and a headliner. But the headliner probably doesn't add more than a pound or two. I know the metal prop adds about twenty pounds. I don't have wheel pant, so I must have cast iron spars. Hopefully we will have a west coast flyin this spring and I can take a look at your plane. I really like those tires.
                    Last edited by Pearson; 12-03-2011, 19:17.
                    Richard Pearson
                    N43381
                    Fort Worth, Texas

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                    • #11
                      Re: BC12-D Empty weight.....

                      Chuck has bladders in the wings so he fills those and his tires with helium.
                      Cheers,
                      Marty


                      TF #596
                      1946 BC-12D N95258
                      Former owner of:
                      1946 BC-12D/N95275
                      1943 L-2B/N3113S

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                      • #12
                        Re: BC12-D Empty weight.....

                        Now that is a grate idea Marty i wish i had thought of it. Also when it was new it was a trainer one door tail skid no wing tanks and no brakes equals 654 lbs. and the pre war B models are lighter then post war.
                        Last edited by cvavon; 12-03-2011, 23:28.
                        1940 BLT/BC65 N26658 SER#2000

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                        • #13
                          Re: BC12-D Empty weight.....

                          WOW!!! I bet that is fun to fly! I guess the tail skid acts as a psuedo brake when you let the tail down. Hmmm....if I only put on a couple of coats of silver, and paint it silver I could get the weight down even lower. Less weight = more fun. Hmmmm.....
                          Richard Pearson
                          N43381
                          Fort Worth, Texas

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                          • #14
                            Re: BC12-D Empty weight.....

                            It has alaska bush wheel 3200 tail wheel and 26/12.50/6 ak bush wheels and yes it is fun to fly the way it's set up
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                            1940 BLT/BC65 N26658 SER#2000

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                            • #15
                              Re: BC12-D Empty weight.....

                              My bc12-D 85horse, weighs 856 on 850's and 886 on skis. I have electric. B&C lightweight starter, alternator. Looks like I got to get it lighter.
                              Staton,

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