Tail brace rods.

[astjp2]

Re: Tail brace rods.

Why are we rehashing this again? in the previous discussions the original wires are CUT threads and if you need replacements Burls has them under stc, you will need to send him your spoke nuts for modification per his STC.

[murphy]

Re: Tail brace rods.

Does anyone make stainless steal wires I live close to the Gulf and my wires are pitted and need replacing. About every Champ in this part of the country has been refitted with SS and they look and work great. Seems like someone in Alaska was building these does anyone remember who? Mike

[Marv]

Re: Tail brace rods.

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[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Tail brace rods.

MEASURE your wires before you order! Different years have different lengths. My 41 and 45 wires ARE NOT interchangeable!
Hank
Don't forget to get jam nuts. ;-)

[blakecarl]

Re: Tail brace rods.

In other threads there was reference to what I believe were special washers--with some kind of collar--to be used on the bolts that fasten the brace rod straps to the stabilizers. I recall some reference to the potential of the bolts being cut if incorrect washers were used.

Are there special washers needed here? If so, is there a drawing or better yet a picture of the correct washers? I have drawings that give a part number but there is not enough detail in the drawing to show what the washer looks like exactly.

Blake

[Mark Julicher]

Re: Tail brace rods.

The rods I bought from Univair are Stainless Steel. (and incidentally, they have rolled threads, not to start a donnybrook).

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Tail brace rods.

That's great! What is the part number and lengths? I have brand new wires on my 41 and would change them out tomorrow for rolled SS wires.

Can you reuse the end fittings and jam nuts or do you need new ones (the old ones have that goofy thread that is hard to find). If I was making these new I would go to a regular thread.

I can't see a donnybrook from a new manufacture wire that is better. All anyone was saying was the original ones were steel and had cut threads. I DON'T like them. I would rather get new ones from Univair and not have to worry about them.

Hank

By the way, YES, the washers have a slightly larger hole to fit over the tube and keep the fitting from bearing on the bolt. The flat wrapped steel end piece with the bolt bears on the TUBE, not the fastener and the fitting can rotate if the wire isn't in place. This allows the load to go straight down the wire and not apply a bending load in the threads.

[blakecarl]

Re: Tail brace rods.

Hank - It’s the tube over the bolt that I didn’t realize was there. I’ll look at the drawings when I get home this evening to see if I can identify it to insure my understanding is correct.

The reference in other threads about the potential for cutting into the bolt got my attention. I’m going to take the tail wire ends apart with my A&P and wanted to be sure I knew what parts were supposed to be used and how they go together. My A&P is great but he hasn’t worked on many Taylorcrafts.

Thanks
Blake

[Larry Lyons]

Re: Tail brace rods.

Yea ours for Tims 46 were lost during rebuild, or we never had them! Anyway we made a set from a washer the right size to slip over the tube and ground them down to the proper O.D. so as not to impinge on the straps. Larry

[t30mg]

Re: Tail brace rods.

MEASURE your wires before you order! Different years have different lengths. My 41 and 45 wires ARE NOT interchangeable!
Hank
Don't forget to get jam nuts. ;-)

Hank, Can you measure your wires? I have a '41 and th project came with nothing. I'm completely in the dark about the rods, jam nuts, brackes or what ever I need.

I currently have a nylon string running through the vertical stab to both horizontals while its shop assembled.

I'm ready to buy whatever I need, I just have absoulutely no idea what it is I need.

Thanks again....
Aaron

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Tail brace rods.

Looks like rotten weather again this weekend but if I can get out to the airport I will measure them. I attached a picture of what they look like. You will need two top wires and two bottom wires (they are different).
You also need 8 nipples, 8 jam nuts, 8 half round blocks, and 8 flat wrapped fittings that the bolts go through (they are also different and have to be put in the right locations).
There are also special washers so the bolt threads aren't in bearing and 5 bolts, washers and nuts.
If I can, I'll try and get close up pictures of each type of assembly for you.
Hank

It isn't as bad as it sounds. Wish you were closer. You are asking all the right questions but it would all probably fall into place so easy if you could just put your hands on a flying plane.

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Tail brace rods.

@#*($%&#(*

Getting real tired of the pictures not attaching.
Hank

[t30mg]

Re: Tail brace rods.

[QUOTE=Hank Jarrett;55171You also need 8 nipples, 8 jam nuts, 8 half round blocks, and 8 flat wrapped fittings that the bolts go through (they are also different and have to be put in the right locations).
There are also special washers so the bolt threads aren't in bearing and 5 bolts, washers and nuts.
[/QUOTE]

thanks Hank.

were do I get all that stuff?

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Tail brace rods.

It SHOULD have been with your plane! These are the little bits and pieces that make a whole plane worth so much more than a project. The little parts will eat you alive.

Are you sure there isn't a box or bag with your plane full of little parts you don't know where they go? If you find one, lay them all out on a gridded paper and take a picture. We will try and identify them from the grid location.

This could be fun!

Hank

[Ron Greene]

Re: Tail brace rods.

The tail brace wires are available fron Univair, the 8 half round blocks, and 8 flat wrapped fittings are available from Wag Aero, they are not in the catalog but if you call and ask fot the Taylorcraft parts list they will fax you the list with all the parts.