Beacon help

[stormman]

beacons

Dave
It seems that old Bob has given you the "chatterbox" sobriquet too ! MUST be a badge of honor for being RIGHT al the time

The house sounds GREAT , hope it works out for you
Hope to see you at Columbia , Its kick back fun

Thank you for contacting AOPA. If the aircraft was certified without an
electrical system and a beacon, none is required. It is FAR 91.205, found on
our website at http://www.aopa.org/members/files/fars/far-91.html

GEE
NORM WAS RIGHT along with many others who did not want to get involved
all nonbelievers please prepare yourselves to leave the island immediately norm

[David Price]

NORM,
You always split my gut with laughter.
And yes, the "chatterbox" is probably because, I do not try to post too much technical, because I am no authority, nor do I have the expertice that so many others do! So, I try to listen and learn, while appearing to be...... a chatterbox.

Well I hope to get to Twin Oaks fly-in breakfast this morning, but running late now, so no breakfast.

Looking forward to "COLUMBIA". Love being laid back!

[paulp]

Beacon help

Norm,

Gotta love 'ya!! You are a gem among gems. And Dave, good luck on the house, acreage and hangar. And rember the FAA's motto,"We're not happy until your not happy."

[Buck]

Er, my apologies for that triple post back there.......

Thanks to all for your help and advice. You guys are terrific!

[Robert Lees]

Buck, you can go to those extra posts back there and delete them. Just click on the EDIT button of the naughty post, and close to the top is a question: "Delete post?" click to select,, and then hit the "Delete post" button

No problems to us all anyway! Better to post thrice than not at all!

Rob

[David Price]

Well I thought I sent a post earlier, but do not see it. So here I go again.

Tribe, Greg, and Norm,
The question that I ask the AOPA, did not have the Night Time, included. So, once again, ask them if the same applies during ,Night Time Hours. Shall post their response.

Is not all this fun, trying to find the "Last Word"?

Thank you. We are all part of the same family!
The "TAYLORCRAFT" family

"LOVE AIR"

[stormman]

dam lights

Jesus Dave
Don't do this , Of course they were thinking about night flight , who asks about lights for Day use?

NOW we going to have to listen to Greg and John whine some more! Those boys will not admit to defeat ! Must be Confederates

[David Price]

OK!

[paulp]

Beacon lighting

Buck.

I gotta go with Norm on this one! Just put the damn beacon on the airplane and go fly.

[stormman]

Bob
Thanks for the new slogans you put on Dave and i

Looks good , But i know its all in fun and i do appreciate what you do for the tribe

[Greg Bockelman]

Well, folks, I don't know what you will accept as final word on the anticollision light debate. It may just be one of those "Don't bother me with the facts, I am not going to change my opinion" type things. My shot at the final word is posted under the thread Beacon help, the final word, Part 1 and 2.

Bottom line is that Denny Pollard with the Oakland FSDO and Craig Brown from AOPA both cite 91.205(c)(3) as source for the requirement for ALL aircraft regardless of when they were certified to have some sort of anticollision light system to fly at night. There are NO PROVISIONS in the regulations for grandfather rights to this.

And one other item, the nav lights and anticollision light system are required for flight from sunset to sunrise as stipulated in 91.209(a).

So, Norm, with all due respect, you are ww, wwrr, wwrrrooo, well, lets just say that on this issue, you are not right.

It has been said that this debate is all in fun. I agree. This sparring is a good exercise to learn. But at some point, we have to cut through the noise and get to the TRUTH. I would hate for someone to get into trouble with the Feds based on what someone on a forum said.

Cheers.

[Buck]

A beacon is planned to magically appear on the plane next week, and will have seemed to have always been there!

[Greg Bockelman]

Originally posted by Buck
A beacon is planned to magically appear on the plane next week, and will have seemed to have always been there!

That's the best solution to the problem at hand.

[David Price]

This is how the AOPA replied:


The answer is a little different with night
operations. You will be required to have the equipment in 91.205 (c). It
reads:

c) Visual flight rules (night). For VFR flight at night, the following
instruments and equipment are required:

(1) Instruments and equipment specified in paragraph (b) of this section.

(2) Approved position lights.

(3) An approved aviation red or aviation white anticollision light system on all
U.S.-registered civil aircraft. Anticollision light systems initially installed
after August 11, 1971, on aircraft for which a type certificate was issued or
applied for before August 11, 1971, must at least meet the anticollision light
standards of part 23, 25, 27, or 29 of this chapter, as applicable, that were in
effect on August 10, 1971, except that the color may be either aviation red or
aviation white. In the event of failure of any light of the anticollision light
system, operations with the aircraft may be continued to a stop where repairs or
replacement can be made.

(4) If the aircraft is operated for hire, one electric landing light.

(5) An adequate source of electrical energy for all installed electrical and
radio equipment.

(6) One spare set of fuses, or three spare fuses of each kind required, that are
accessible to the pilot in flight.

So, the short answer is no. You cannot fly your Tcraft at night. However, if
you modify it to include the equipment in this part, you are good to go.

Take care.

Ian


Reply posted as stated.

[paulp]

magic beacon

Buck,

That sounds like a very sensible and right thinking decision. And,
in the interest of saftey it's a hellava good idea. And Dave, thanks much for the research. I learned a bunch.