fuel shut off valve

[jstall]

Re: fuel shut off valve

The original fuel valves were made by Imperial Brass. The lawyers got to the company after the John Denver crash and Imperial totally stopped making fuel valves for aircraft and trashed and buried the stock that they had in inventory. Again, the legal system protects us all so now you can have a fire hazard due to non replacement parts available from the original manufacturer.
We ain't seen nothing yet like we will after the self-serving crooked lawyer gets back in the white house in January.
Larry Wheelock, Taylorcraft BC12D being repaired.

This is why many folks are going to experimental, FAA has forced this, trying to own a
antique in this day and age is most stressful

JS

[wmfife]

Re: fuel shut off valve

Well...

I have been looking at options. Especially ones that have folding wings so I can save some $256+ a mo. in hangar rental... which as a retired USGS employee is slowly eating me alive...

But first things first. I am now 100% thoroughly convinced no one knows more about this '41 Deluxe BL12-65 than I do. ...want to challenge me on that? You're on.

But I need to move on. And right now I have aluminum foil covering 4 instruments' faces in my house because they have radium dials.

...Want to talk? We talk here. Make me an offer. Just anything but the silver ball T&B. Because only Lindbergh and Wiley Post had ones like it. So I'm keeping it. But the Pioneer ASI & Tach, the W.W. II sensitive altimeter & the Radio Compass plus a "dog-eared" T&B from the thirties are all on the auction block. And one each oil pressure & temp gauge for a Waco biplane. Along with at least one B-16 compass. B/C I can only use so many.

Nobody lives forever. And I could use the $$. TKS.

[astjp2]

Re: fuel shut off valve

So do you need a valve?

[wmfife]

Re: fuel shut off valve

As a backup to the original- yes; almost certainly. After all redundancy is all about staying safe.
If you still have one for sale I'm looking.
Just laid in a pair of wing tank valves. This will complete the set.
Thanks.

[N95334]

Re: fuel shut off valve

It appears that the FAA gets it wrong. Look at the fuel valve problem with John Denver's case. It wan't the valve
that caused to accident. Closer to our home was the FAA wing strut AD. It was not the strut failed but the lower tubing that broke. Why does the FAA do a knee jerk reaction or is it the NTSB?

Dennis McGuire

[t-crafter]

Re: fuel shut off valve

Tim, sent you a PM.
Carlton.

[wmfife]

Re: fuel shut off valve

Valve arrived this week. Really like the action and fit. I think it's going to work rings around the old one. What name does it go under? For log entry. And do I need a 337?

Anyway thanks. Not another like it anywhere to my knowledge.

One feature I especially like are the stops that correctly align the valve in the open and closed positions. The original had none making it necessary to guess. Never should have been legal IMO.

Bill

PS: @Dennis: Completely agree about the strut fittings. It's the FAA. And while I also agree about the J.D. crash and the company making the fuel valve the ones originally fitted in these T-Craft seem to have some serious issues. I highly recommend Tim's upgrade. Better flow means more power and with a Lyc. 65 that's everything. B.

[JK918]

Re: fuel shut off valve

I'm looking for a fuel valve also, along with the rod that goes with it. If anyone can help I'd greatly appreciate it.

Joe
1946 BC12-D C90
N96566

[astjp2]

I am going to Oshkosh and I can bring some parts so if someone wants to assemble their own valve, I will be there on Monday and passing by on Friday next week. Tim

[Lisa]

With sympathy for the departed, and respect for those who don't see the matter clearly, no pilot has ever died from a malfunctioning valve, fuel starvation, or an engine stoppage. The engine doesn't keep an airplane in the air. What has killed scores of pilots is failing to aviate first. Especially after the unexpected occurs.

Lisa

CADE. I thank you, good people: a there shall be no money; all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree like brothers, and worship me their lord.

DICK. The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.

CADE. Nay, that I mean to do. Is not this a lamentable thing, that of the skin of an innocent lamb should be made parchment, that parchment, being scribbl'd o'er, should undo a man?

--Henry VI, Part 2, Act IV, Scene 2

[N96337]

I am going to Oshkosh and I can bring some parts so if someone wants to assemble their own valve, I will be there on Monday and passing by on Friday next week. Tim

Tim, did Andy get ahold of you about a valve? If not, I can put the bug in his ear again.
John

[jstall]

Those valves can be taken apart, cleaned up and install new o-ring in the shaft side, sometimes that will fix em, use some fuel lube, "VERY SPARELING" on the
tapered valve should work, I've fixed several like that

[Lisa]

Re: fuel shut off valve

It appears that the FAA gets it wrong. Look at the fuel valve problem with John Denver's case. It wan't the valve
that caused to accident. Closer to our home was the FAA wing strut AD. It was not the strut failed but the lower tubing that broke. Why does the FAA do a knee jerk reaction or is it the NTSB?

Dennis McGuire

There is no such thing as "the FAA," or "the NTSB." Government agencies like corporations are "fictional people," and filled with human beings that are flawed like the rest of us. They make mistakes, jump to easy or popular conclusions, are often lazy, and have a complete "unmatched" set of double standards.

I wrote the FAA over a decade ago about the fact that according to the TCDS an airplane I fly regularly is supposed to be powered by a "Continental A-56-F." It's still wrong today. So is another TCDS that says an airplane's forward CG limit is at 9.1" (that's 15.2% of MAC)... But if you or I make an error, well that's quite different...

[Robert Lees]

Re: fuel shut off valve

....One feature I especially like are the stops that correctly align the valve in the open and closed positions. The original had none making it necessary to guess. Never should have been legal IMO.

Bill.....

Bill: The main fuselage tank fuel valves (and the wing-tank fuel valves at head height in the wing root) DID have the quarter-turn stops fitted (as did all the other tens of thousands made). The difference with the Taylorcraft fuselage fuel shut-off valve is the bellcrank between the actuating rod & the valve at the tank is between 45 and 135 degrees, not 0 and 90 degrees. Both still make up 90.

I attach some photos that might help?

Rob

[Robert Lees]

There is no such thing as "the FAA," or "the NTSB." Government agencies like corporations are "fictional people," and filled with human beings that are flawed like the rest of us. They make mistakes, jump to easy or popular conclusions, are often lazy, and have a complete "unmatched" set of double standards.

I wrote the FAA over a decade ago about the fact that according to the TCDS an airplane I fly regularly is supposed to be powered by a "Continental A-56-F." It's still wrong today. So is another TCDS that says an airplane's forward CG limit is at 9.1" (that's 15.2% of MAC)... But if you or I make an error, well that's quite different...

Lisa, we're on no high horses in our little group here. We enjoy flying & maintaining our small simple Taylorcraft. No politics; may be a bit of friendly banter, meet-ups and so on.
So please be careful (in on-line life, as well as flying!)

Sincerely,
Robert Lees, very occasional moderator.