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  • Introduction and in need of some wing parts

    I've been lurking here for a couple of months, so I thought I'd finally introduce myself. My name is Brian Cantrell. I live on an airpark about 20nm south of Memphis, TN in a little town called Hernando, MS. We have a 3300ft grass strip - great for taildraggers. It's H75 if any of you are ever in the area.

    I've a had Bonanza for the last 6 years or so. Before that I had a Maule that I bought as a basket case and restored from the ground up. Lately I've been itching for another project, and I wanted something better suited for low/slow flying than the Bonanza. Also wanted something that I could operate out of a pasture on my parents farm in central Arkansas. I fly a friends Wag-Aero Sport Trainer (cub clone) quite a bit, but it was just too slow (100nm to the farm) and uncomfortable for me. So, you guessed it, I ended up with a Taylorcraft. I came very close to buying Chuck Avon's plane, but decided I wanted more of a project airplane. (Chuck's plane is really cool by the way!)

    I ended up buying a plane that was literally right across the street. My neighbor's dad had an affinity for Taylorcrafts, and this was the last one he owned before passing way. My neighbor already has a Pacer and a Vagabond, and had no desire to keep the Taylorcraft, so he made me a deal that was pretty hard to turn down. The airplane was airworthy, but pretty ratty and in need of some serious TLC.

    Here's the embarrassing part. I flew it couple of times - it flew much better than it looked! But then I had a little starting mishap. Apparently I had the throttle cracked a little much for my chocks. After hand propping, it started at a higher power setting than I intended. It rolled over my chock and before I could get inside to shut it down, it hit the side of my hangar. Ouch. Fortunately I had it insured and no one was hurt - other than the plane, my hangar, and my pride. Kind of embarrassing for a 6500 hour airline captain. I've got quite a bit of tailwheel time, but obviously not as much experience hand propping.

    So.... My insurance company accepted my offer to buy the airplane back (it was totaled), and now what was intended to be a flyable project just became a full on restoration. The main damage from the mishap was the engine/prop, and the right wing. I had intended to replace the tired A65 with an 85 anyway, so no big loss there. The right wingtip struck the building, and all that moment arm broke the rear spar in the first bay. I've got the wings off now, with the right wing on sawhorses and the fabric removed. I'm gonna need a few wing parts, and I just found out the Univair currently doesn't sell ribs. The butt rib is pretty ugly - it already had some patches before the mishap. The root compression strut is a bit tweaked too. The wingtip skin is mangled, but the bow itself is fine. A few other ribs have some damage but may be repairable.

    I've already spent tons of time with the search function. You guys have a great board here, and a wealth of information! I just wanted to jump in and say hello, and see if y'all have any resources for wing parts. Thanks!
    Brian Cantrell
    1946 Taylorcraft BC-12D, N96262
    1961 N35 Bonanza, N61GM

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    Re: Introduction and in need of some wing parts

    Hi Brian,

    Welcome.

    Suggestion make succinct and simple list of what parts you need and post it in the for sale and wanted section of the forum.

    Here it is => http://vb.taylorcraft.org/forumdispl...Services-Shops

    Dave

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    • #3
      Re: Introduction and in need of some wing parts

      Got it posted there. Thanks Dave.
      Brian Cantrell
      1946 Taylorcraft BC-12D, N96262
      1961 N35 Bonanza, N61GM

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      • #4
        Re: Introduction and in need of some wing parts

        Butt rib and wing tip pics:


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        Brian Cantrell
        1946 Taylorcraft BC-12D, N96262
        1961 N35 Bonanza, N61GM

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        • #5
          Re: Introduction and in need of some wing parts

          The tip leading edge is soft material, I suspect yours can be straightened based on what I see in the photo
          Scott
          CF-CLR Blog: http://c-fclr.blogspot.ca/

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          • #6
            Re: Introduction and in need of some wing parts

            I was wondering about that Scott. My IA is a very good sheet metal guy. I'm gonna let him see what he can do with it. btw.. Thanks so much for the thorough documentation on your blog. I've already spent a lot of time there. May end up having to put a bunch of patches on the butt rib like you did. Just wish whoever did the first round of patches hadn't been such a hack.
            Brian Cantrell
            1946 Taylorcraft BC-12D, N96262
            1961 N35 Bonanza, N61GM

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            • #7
              Re: Introduction and in need of some wing parts

              Thanks Brian, appreciate your comments.

              In retrospect the root ribs were relatively easy! My suggestion would be to de-rivet the root rib, get the two halves apart, cut out the damage that can't be straightened, and then see what you have. Perhaps it won't seem so bad at that point.

              The root ribs are basically two regular ribs riveted together, so you can get all the dimensions, shapes etc. from any of the other ribs.

              Best of luck with your project
              Scott
              CF-CLR Blog: http://c-fclr.blogspot.ca/

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              • #8
                Re: Introduction and in need of some wing parts

                Sorry to hear about your mishap, I always now tie the tail of my airplane after a couple of close calls, as well as chalk it,. After its settles into an idle I can then untie it. I had a mishap about 3 years ago when I slid on a very slippery frozen grass area and hit a fencepost and implement on the right wing. I replaced the fount spar but spliced the butt 3ft of the rear spar as described in the regs, I got the materials from Aircraft Spruce and am very happy with the results. Stronger than original. This Foundation site is very helpful best of luck.

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                • #9
                  Re: Introduction and in need of some wing parts

                  ABSOLUTELY!! I have straightened some with much worse damage. Just take it SLOW with lots of soft taps. DON'T HIT IT HARD!!!! You will just stretch the metal. You shouldn't even need to wheel one like that.

                  Hank

                  Check up on ho to anneal it when you work harden the metal.

                  Originally posted by Scott View Post
                  The tip leading edge is soft material, I suspect yours can be straightened based on what I see in the photo

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                  • #10
                    Re: Introduction and in need of some wing parts

                    I am rather surprised at this thread. Several years ago I wanted to repair the first disaster Taylorcraft that I owned. When I looked around in Northern California I found several items such as complete wings and old dog Taylorcrafts sitting around. My idea is that there are likely more leftover Tcraft clunkers sitting out there than any other small aircraft. Rather amazes me that there is a problem finding an item such as a rib. Maybe we should start tracking these old planes down and taking them apart for spares?
                    Darryl

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                    • #11
                      Re: Introduction and in need of some wing parts

                      Originally posted by flyguy View Post
                      I am rather surprised at this thread. Several years ago I wanted to repair the first disaster Taylorcraft that I owned. When I looked around in Northern California I found several items such as complete wings and old dog Taylorcrafts sitting around. My idea is that there are likely more leftover Tcraft clunkers sitting out there than any other small aircraft. Rather amazes me that there is a problem finding an item such as a rib. Maybe we should start tracking these old planes down and taking them apart for spares?
                      Darryl
                      Perhaps the reason they were old dogs that all the hard-to-find parts on them were in need of replacement/repair. Old dog aircraft=old dog parts!

                      The root ribs for example, were simply unable to resist the forces of dope (which kept on shrinking for the life of the fabric). So even without an accident, most (all except the few that never saw dope) of the root ribs out there need to be repaired or replaced.

                      I think you're right, there are lots of parts out there, but there does seem to be a shortage of good parts associated with the weak points on the Tcraft.
                      Scott
                      CF-CLR Blog: http://c-fclr.blogspot.ca/

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                      • #12
                        Re: Introduction and in need of some wing parts

                        I know that there are several aircraft out there flying with D&E ribs modified to be used as butt ribs....
                        N29787
                        '41 BC12-65

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                        • #13
                          Re: Introduction and in need of some wing parts

                          I had nightmares of a hand propping runaway and purchased a halter rope from a farm store. One end has a sturdy snap to hook on to the tail tie down and the other end is fastened to the anchor bolt at the bottom of the vertical beam on the side of the hanger door. I just pull the plane out of the hanger and push the tail over to the side to hook up the rope. I still set the chocks on a rope to hold it after all is stabilized and the rope unhooked. It sure feels a lot better when you light it off with a little too much throttle and it is snarling at you like a guard dog on a chain.
                          Lyn Wagner
                          Formerly N96290
                          TF# 1032
                          KLXN

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                          • #14
                            Re: Introduction and in need of some wing parts

                            why not just leave it tied down until its at a steady low idle before untying it?
                            N29787
                            '41 BC12-65

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                            • #15
                              Re: Introduction and in need of some wing parts

                              No one sees it under the fabric, $50 each from http://de-aircraft.com/other.html and you can get a right and left to make a butt rib.
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                              N29787
                              '41 BC12-65

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