46 Paint Schemes

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: 46 Paint Schemes

Having some trouble getting photos to attach. Trying again.

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: 46 Paint Schemes

Well, I'm about to give up. The photos attach, but never show up. Just for info, in the photos the Taylorcraft Ivory looks like a piece of typing paper. Completely white. NOTHING like reality.

Hank

Your monitor results may vary. ;-)

[M Towsley]

Re: 46 Paint Schemes

Send them to me, Hank and I will take care of it. Are there really photos of your airplane finished and painted??? Lol...

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: 46 Paint Schemes

Seeing if it was just a local net problem.

Hank

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: 46 Paint Schemes

No idea what the problem was yesterday. Did everything exactly the same as always. Just note that the Taylorcraft Ivory DOES NOT look alike in each photo and none of them look like the plane really does!
I DID find a rattle can of Rustolium that is almost an exact match! I will try to find the can again and get the number.

Hank

For those who have never been in my hangar, YES, you can loose something in there in a matter of minutes.

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: 46 Paint Schemes

By the way, she IS FLYING!!!! First flight the trim jammed, the radio failed and the felt seals on the engine baffles blew out. No permanent damage and I just finished the repairs on Tuesday. Just waiting for the IA to be available for another PMCF. He said it wasn't bad at all for as long as she had been down and her being 70+ years old.

Hank

[Dick Smith]

Re: 46 Paint Schemes

Hank, Greetings from the Alaska Tribe...Congratulations on getting your plane back in the air...it's been fun to follow your progress as you wrestled with the myriad of details. Now go fly the "Living daylights out of her"! Dick

[DPKII]

Re: 46 Paint Schemes

I had a similar idea when I did mine. I have been happy with the scheme.

David

[Scott]

Re: 46 Paint Schemes

No idea what the problem was yesterday. Did everything exactly the same as always. Just note that the Taylorcraft Ivory DOES NOT look alike in each photo and none of them look like the plane really does!
I DID find a rattle can of Rustolium that is almost an exact match! I will try to find the can again and get the number.

Hank

For those who have never been in my hangar, YES, you can loose something in there in a matter of minutes.

Thanks Hank
Yes it's difficult to pin down the shade in the photos. Looks like a warmer tone ie a cream/yellow white? (as opposed to a blue or grey tone white).

Didn't realize your bird was not flying. Congrats on getting it back in one piece.

[Scott]

Re: 46 Paint Schemes

I had a similar idea when I did mine. I have been happy with the scheme.

David

Nice looking machine! Thanks!

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: 46 Paint Schemes

Thanks all. My IA had out his phone on the first flight and I thought he was trying to get a signal. Later he told me he has video on his phone. I am hoping he saved it! Just got a new radio last night (iCOM ic-A22) so now I have a spare. Old one just stopped working on internal battery. Took it apart and found some corrosion and loose connections. Working great again and hoping to hear from Tom today. BEAUTIFUL flying day, but he has a hangar full of busted planes to work on. I would love to go help. Only thing better than playing with your own plane is getting to work with a really good IA looking over your shoulder on someone elses.

Hank

[Mark Bowden]

Re: 46 Paint Schemes

Hi Scott,
Resource ideas for accuracy and creativity: the Alliance News Paper web site has the old photo collection, Barnstormers always seems to have 20 or so to look at, of course Chet's book. There are good threads on how to paint/execute too, once you pick.

http://www.alliancememory.org/cdm/landingpage/collection/taylor

http://www.alliancememory.org/cdm/search/collection/taylor

During the restoration one technique we did was to project Kodak slides on the wall and trace the outline on paper then play with how to do the stripes with different ground viewing angles as this is how everyone looks at it. The colors are Sacramento Green and Juneau White, this white really is striking in the sun if you are looking for a white. (I know, slides, lol)

I agree with Marty, you can hurt your "sell price" with the wrong scheme. If you personalize I think one of the crucial design elements is how the horizontal stripe or 2-tone feature coming from the cowl to the tail is laid out. It is a key feature with respect to the airframe proportions and will dictate how the finished product will look. Spend a lot of time here on the design. There are 2-3 angles and rudder/tailcone end points that really seem to work. The other tough point to work with is the angle of the lower edge of the door window, one trick is to hiding it in a dark color. The rest is pretty easy and your choice there will usually have universal appeal.

If you have wheel pants don't be afraid to follow the lines of the pant and the aluminum "bright" line. The proportions of the pant are not the same as the airframe. It doesn't have to match the airframe to make the whole package look best which is shown in some of the old period photos.

In the registry, 39911, I have a pic of her and Jim's airplane side by side, it is a good comparison. Both have been awarded at shows, both are great looking, so from an appeal or judge stand point there is no single path.

I would say do what makes you happy, period accurate or custom, you put so much effort into restoration! Great blog, a great resource!

Mark

[Joe cooper]

Re: 46 Paint Schemes

Factory paint schemes do exist. The t craft I sold not long ago is an example. The rebuilder was a genius who did a magnificent job. He was a retired shop teacher and a stickler for detail. He also gave me a box full of old t craft promotional materials, brochures, etc. One picture showed a businessman type standing in front of a BC12D in his suit. The rebuilder copied the deluxe paint job shown on the brochure. You can see it on the registry n number 43338, or you can google "taylorcraft fun" and see it also. It was even more impressive if you actually walked up to it. I think the right colors and design do make a big difference! a fellow in Arizona bought it from my ad in trade a plane and a friend flew it out there to stellar air park. Hope this helps. The colors were Daytona creme and a red he mixed himself. It was dope on ceconite.

[Scott]

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Thanks Mark and Joe
I looked through all of those old pics, very few post war images but good info in terms of the huge variety of paint schemes that emerged from the factory.

Thanks for the suggestions, ideas and info, it's all very helpful. Anthony has worked up a rendering of what amounts to the 46 deluxe scheme with some tweaks I wanted to try. So far I think this is the direction I'll be going ie true to the 46 concept but with some (what I feel are) subtle improvements. As far as I can tell, the knowledge of the 46 deluxe scheme stems from the various ad copy from the era. As these were renderings themselves we don't know what "artistic license" they included. Couple this with the recounts that the schemes varied depending on the day and who was pulling lines and I think some latitude is ok.

I'll post the rendering when Anthony gets the final version done assuming he's ok with it.

Anyway that's where I'm at today. If I ever get the ****%*ing headliner done ..... I'll be happy to get the fabric on the fuselage and start shooting!

By the way if anyone's interested (caution no Tcraft pics) here is a slideshow of my 172 restoration: https://cgpgk.shutterfly.com/pictures/63 I used the original factory scheme with some small changes to enhance the appearance (and avoid having lines bisecting cowl fasteners etc).

thanks again

[VanDy]

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I just ordered some poly from jim and Dondi today, they retired three weeks ago, but are still selling the last of their inventory and answering the phone. FYI

The Randolph colors are NOT Taylorcraft Ivory. NONE of them. I went to Jim and Dondi and they custom mixed mine. I used an HVLP system to paint my plane. If you need some I have lots left over. I am sure they could mix more to match if it isn't enough, but you would want to mix ALL of the Ivory into one batch (a single large container) since even different cans from the same batch can look a little different when applied.

Hank