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  • #31
    If you want to know what fuselage it is and how old you need to START with the SN of the fuselage. It will give you an idea of how old (what year) the fuse is. The fuselage SN IS NOT always the same as the AC SN, but is usually close unless the fuselage has been swapped out. You can also tell what year the fuselage is by looking at details like the instrument panel mount tabs, door frames, compass mount, trim system mounts, stringer tabs........... There are LOTS of subtle differences that will give you an idea if the fuselage is original.

    Take LOTS of photos and post them.

    Hank

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    • #32
      My offer still stands if you're interested.
      EO

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      • #33
        If I remember correctly this airplane was registered experimental.

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        • #34
          Yes it was. What experimental category allows for how that was done?

          Gary
          N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85

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          • #35
            Originally posted by PA1195 View Post
            Yes it was. What experimental category allows for how that was done?

            Gary
            Long ago many things were posible if you found the right FAA man, now not so much.

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            • #36
              If she was approved at one time and has an Airworthiness Cert, wouldn't you be able to keep using it? I know it is getting really hard to do now, but I also thought if an AWC wasn't turned in and the plane stayed registered the Airworthiness never died (just wasn't current unless annuals were kept up).

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              • #37
                https://registry.faa.gov/AircraftInq...umbertxt=13060 I'm not sure what this means besides it being de-registered and who has put the N on hold.

                Maybe it's best a parts now.

                Gary
                N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85

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                • #38
                  paperwork is prewar deluxe. has postwar tail group. Had banjo wheels. It could have been a Deluxe fuselage with postwar tail installed. deluxe used the overhead trim system

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by 3Dreaming View Post

                    Long ago many things were posible if you found the right FAA man, now not so much.
                    Here's a question: If the aircraft was experimental and had an accident while in that category why is there an AD that now applies to non-experimental aircraft? I realize SB's were later developed and likely why, but to assume the experimental aircraft's build and subsequent operational limits were the same as others manufactured under CAR 4a begs the question. I've sent for the FAA's airworthiness and registration info to learn more.

                    Gary
                    N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85

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                    • #40
                      You all know a great deal more about all of this than I do. I do know that if it could be rebuilt and put back in the air I think that would be great. If not than I think it would be great to put the parts to good use. I just do not have the time to part it out and sell off the parts. My first choice would be to see someone that wants to put her back together. Second would be for someone to take the whole thing and put the parts to use.
                      Tim

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                      • #41
                        I surely hope the plane can fly again. Parts or as an assembly.

                        Gary
                        N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85

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                        • #42
                          I received the CD for N13060/N33936 S/N 2786 today. Despite its current condition it is an interesting aircraft that underwent a long life, several owners, a few bumps, and a final STC'd build as a floatplane.

                          It appears a one time STC SA 1605 NM was issued for all the modifications described via FAA Form 337. An Experimental Airworthiness Certificate was temporarily issued after the modifications "to show compliance with the FAR" per future test flights. A Standard Airworthiness Certificate was then reissued I assume concurrent with the STC. The current FAA records that list it as an Experimental appear to be incorrect. When the "N" number was changed from 33936 to 13060 isn't noted.

                          Basically the STC issued duplicates the Gilberti/Harer and current CAP SA1-210 with the exception of a post-WWII tail and some other additional modifications noted. Documentation for the STC to convert from -65 top -85 engine refers to a FAA Inspector's notes from 4/13/60 and "Above modifications made in accordance with Taylorcraft, Inc., instructions".

                          It's an interesting Taylorcraft.

                          Gary
                          N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85

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                          • #43
                            I still have this plane (parts) if anyone is interested. I had to take care of some other family issues and stopped trying to clear it out.
                            I am ready to let this go to anyone that can put her to good use. I really want to get it out of my warehouse and will have to Dump it by summer. If anyone is interested in hauling it away let me know. The plane is sitting on a good long trailer that I am willing to sell if that helps. We also have some other parts that should have some value however it might take someone that knows what is what. We have quite a few parts and many ore from other planes. Time to clear out the warehouse and make some room. Not looking to make money just hate to see the parts end up in the scrap yard.
                            Tim

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                            • #44
                              That's a gracious offer Tim, and if nobody else closer can help you out, I'll try.
                              John
                              I'm so far behind, I think I'm ahead

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                              • #45
                                Surely a U-Haul and trailer would save the items? Maybe we need to solicit for similar donations and share the parts for shipping. Yes there's an Internet market for sales but that sometimes goes against giving back to the Taylorcraft future and something that can outlive us.

                                Gary
                                N36007 1941 BF12-65 STC'd as BC12D-4-85

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