F-19 Cowl

[cvavon]

Re: F-19 Cowl

Jim I moved the thread up to the top of the page it is C85 Engine up grade on 26658. Chuck

[TC747paul]

Re: F-19 Cowl

Chuck
Wow did your thread and pictures help a lot!
Getting my shopping list together, could you look below?
Generator B&C Model 200G 14V?
Starter B&C Model 320?
Oddyssey Battery 680A PN?
Exhaust Luscombe 8E?? found at Wag Aero haven't found the Cabin Heat Shroud Yet
Has the Opening under the prop for oil cooling issue been settled from your perspective? My current nose bowl has the opening

Thanks for any guidance anyone may have

Paul

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: F-19 Cowl

A few things learned since Chuck did his plane. If you have a CG problem and your battery box is behind the seat take a look at teh new Li-Fe-Io batteries. SIGNIFICANTLY lighter for the same power and the fire hazard problems are pretty much taken care of. Make sure you get the cell monitored versions. The elimination of the lower inlet works great, BUT you now have a PRESSURE COWL! You need to do a really good job of fitting everything up on the baffles and seals. I still think if Chuck had the typical sloppy seals on most T's his engine would be toast by now. He has a nice TIGHT cowl and seals. He also has an oil filter that doubles as an oil cooler! That is how I think his case temps have been kept low.
See if you can find the video of his plane in flight and listen to the engine. It DOES NOT sound like a T any more, but it DOES sound great!

Hank

[cvavon]

Re: F-19 Cowl

Paul sent you a email .Chuck

[cvavon]

Re: F-19 Cowl

Will take your compliments any time hank. yes the baffles are tight and it stays cool.The photos show all the baffles but we built a small close up for the gap in the front under the crank shaft.Now all the air flow goes in on top and out the bottom like more modern aircraft.Also like hank said i have a 4.5 QT oil tank and a 1QT oil filter for a total of 5.5QT.The exhaust i got from the luscomb foundation great quality also they have the PMA roller bearing pulleys for tcraft make the controlls feel so good .

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: F-19 Cowl

Jerry,
The cowl I had was a flat cowl but looks like much earlier than a Ferris plane. It has luggage latches, dual exhaust holes and the early small hole for the carb inlet (no air cleaner). It is for a short mount and I doubt it will fit a Ferris plane. I will go ahead and trace it since there may be others who havethe early planes and this is the only lower cowl I have seen without the square cut out for the Bracket filter in the front.
There are more cowls further down in the pile but I haven't seen another flat one yet. I will look again next time out. Got to be careful of avalanches!

Hank

I did take a couple of photos and will try and post them later.

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Re: F-19 Cowl

I have a STC 0-200 case on my C-85 with lord mounts with a long mount, so I need a F-19 top and bottom cowl, if any one can help?
Jerry

[3Dreaming]

Re: F-19 Cowl

I have a STC 0-200 case on my C-85 with lord mounts with a long mount, so I need a F-19 top and bottom cowl, if any one can help?
Jerry

Yes, you will need a F-19 cowl.

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: F-19 Cowl

This is the Lycoming cowl with the dual exhaust, short mount and early intake without the "Bracket" air filter. It lays completely flat but is the only one I have that hasn't been modified for the Bracket air filter.

Hank

When someone DOES find a long mount Continental lower cowl please be sure to trace it before you use it for the other folks with Ferris planes!

[3Dreaming]

Re: F-19 Cowl

This is the Lycoming cowl with the dual exhaust, short mount and early intake without the "Bracket" air filter. It lays completely flat but is the only one I have that hasn't been modified for the Bracket air filter.

Hank

When someone DOES find a long mount Continental lower cowl please be sure to trace it before you use it for the other folks with Ferris planes!

Hank, the cowlings were cut for installation of an air box using an Air Maze type filter element. Brackett came along and designed a foam element filter replacement for the Air Maze or paper type filter element.

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: F-19 Cowl

I have an original inlet with no filter but have never seen an "Air Maze". I like the looks without the Bracket, but don't want to not have ANY filter! Do you have any photos of the Air Maze?

Hank

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: F-19 Cowl

I have an original inlet with no filter but have never seen an "Air Maze". I like the looks without the Bracket, but don't want to not have ANY filter! Do you have any photos of the Air Maze?

Hank

[3Dreaming]

Re: F-19 Cowl

Hank. the air box for the filter was a Continental part I believe, but it could have been from a different source. It was designed to have a filter element attached to it. The Air Maze filter is the type filter from the 1940's that would have been installed. It was a pleated screen wire with flocking attached inside the proper sized housing. Now instead of the Air Maze you can use a paper element filter from Donaldson, or a Brackett foam element filter. The cowlings are not cut for the Brackett air filters, they are cut for the air box. The air box can have many different kinds of filters installed, but the most common seems to be the Brackett.
Also for you mechanics out there, make sure you are checking the Brackett filter assemblies to make sure they are in compliance with their AD's. I just found an airplane that had the wrong assembly installed, and nobody had done the AD that had come out in 1995.

[astjp2]

Re: F-19 Cowl

Hank. the air box for the filter was a Continental part I believe, but it could have been from a different source. It was designed to have a filter element attached to it. The Air Maze filter is the type filter from the 1940's that would have been installed. It was a pleated screen wire with flocking attached inside the proper sized housing. Now instead of the Air Maze you can use a paper element filter from Donaldson, or a Brackett foam element filter. The cowlings are not cut for the Brackett air filters, they are cut for the air box. The air box can have many different kinds of filters installed, but the most common seems to be the Brackett.
Also for you mechanics out there, make sure you are checking the Brackett filter assemblies to make sure they are in compliance with their AD's. I just found an airplane that had the wrong assembly installed, and nobody had done the AD that had come out in 1995.

Most bracket filters are only changed annually, they also have a condition requirement and an hour limit for change out. Tim

[astjp2]

Re: F-19 Cowl

Hank. the air box for the filter was a Continental part I believe, but it could have been from a different source. It was designed to have a filter element attached to it. The Air Maze filter is the type filter from the 1940's that would have been installed. It was a pleated screen wire with flocking attached inside the proper sized housing. Now instead of the Air Maze you can use a paper element filter from Donaldson, or a Brackett foam element filter. The cowlings are not cut for the Brackett air filters, they are cut for the air box. The air box can have many different kinds of filters installed, but the most common seems to be the Brackett.
Also for you mechanics out there, make sure you are checking the Brackett filter assemblies to make sure they are in compliance with their AD's. I just found an airplane that had the wrong assembly installed, and nobody had done the AD that had come out in 1995.

Most bracket filters are only changed annually, they also have a condition requirement and an hour limit for change out. Tim