Tire 600x6 6ply

[magman]

Re: Tire 600x6 6ply

ASK YOUR A&P / IA WHAT HE WANTS... he is the one that counts[/QUOTE]

Actually it would be the "Hearing Officer" or judge.

[Guest]

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this is ridiculous...
your going to get different answers from different FAA inspectors and obviously different answers from different A&P's as well as wanna-be A&P's

ASK YOUR A&P / IA WHAT HE WANTS... he is the one that counts

not to worry Bob

its a forum a place for talk and debate

sometimes it ends on the the right answer and sometimes on the wrong

sometimes it just never ends cause anybody can jump in whenever they want, nobody gets the last word

no worries, don't let it get you down or any one else for that matter its a forum a place for talk

Dave

[Dennis Keels]

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If your worried about ply of your tires maybe you better sell your T and start hanger flying.

[astjp2]

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So Dennis, what qualifies you to make a determination on what is airworthy? Your FAA credientials? Your IA? Even an A&P? or just another disgruntled owner with a SEL?

[Dennis Keels]

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I don't need any credentials to know that worrying about tire ply is no big deal. When you can fly with 2 ply of a 6 ply showing. I'am not a disgruntled owner I got my airplanes to fly not set around and worry about everything. We have been kicking this around for days now.

[Guest]

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I don't need any credentials to know that worrying about tire ply is no big deal. When you can fly with 2 ply of a 6 ply showing. I'am not a disgruntled owner I got my airplanes to fly not set around and worry about everything. We have been kicking this around for days now.

Hi Dennis,

If it distresses then stay out of it.

Some of us who need to know how to apply the FARs have questions about the application of the adminstrative law.

You may not be interested at all but you do not have to participate.

You also don't need to jump in and call us a bunch of a$$ holes.

Dave

[ajfriz]

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I don't need any credentials to know that worrying about tire ply is no big deal. When you can fly with 2 ply of a 6 ply showing. I'am not a disgruntled owner I got my airplanes to fly not set around and worry about everything. We have been kicking this around for days now.

Don't try and say tire ply is no big deal! I need to know if the weight of those two extra plies is going to create enough stress on my airframe to cause it to implode while I'm cruising at 98mph! That $hit would not be cool, so we need to discuss this topic for a few more pages so we can get to the bottom of it!

[Guest]

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mechanics and IA's,

you may have seen this before its a web page of legal interpretations of the regs:

http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/agc/pol_adjudication/agc200/interpretations/

I saw an interesting one on preventive maintenance that perhaps "explains" the oil change.

It is attached (I gave it the file name FAA name was longer).

I found nothing of interest on minor alterations.

Dave

[astjp2]

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Read page 2 para. 2 & 3, if it does not conform to the type certificate, or modifications by STC/AD/etc. its unairworthy.

Its not a matter of being safer, just making sure you document what changes are made to improve safety.

http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/agc/pol_adjudication/agc200/interpretations/data/interps/2008/Witkowski.pdf

[T.Taylor]

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Maybe this was thrown in earlier and I missed it, but on the TCDS it shows this for the BC12-d, well for a whole bunch of the B series, am I missing something, where did this 4 ply vs. 6 ply show up??, Tom


14/ 202. Two main wheels, 6.00-6, Type III, Firestone 604 9 lb. (+2)

[astjp2]

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That is the wheel that has the brake drums.

[Dennis Keels]

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No where did I call anybody an ass hole. If the ply of your tires worry you that ok, but I worry about things little more serious.

[jim cooper]

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Questions arise: Would not a 6 ply be safer than a 4 ply? In Maryland, State Police cars run 6 ply because as a buddy I used to goose hunt with said , "They are safer at high speed." 2. How much heavier are 6 ply than 4 ply? Are 6 ply tires heavier than a set of floats? How would the airplane "Impode" with 6 ply tires? To my senile way of thinking, If I wanted to switch from 4 to 6 ply I would have already done it and gone on with my flying. Getting on in years I can assure you that this type conversation would not have occured 30 years ago. But then 30-40 years ago, no one used oversize tires. fellow pilots would have dubbed you crazy. Both my Stearman and my 195 Cessna had several car parts on them as it was the only way one could keep them in the air! (Things like 55 ford generator, Chevy brakes, etc.) Its hard to imagine an FAA type looking closely at tire nomenclature, BUT, if he did, turning with a look of horror and exclaiming " Holy s---! you have 6 ply tires!" (add ford voltage regulator to the Cessna 195) JC

[Guest]

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Maybe this was thrown in earlier and I missed it, but on the TCDS it shows this for the BC12-d, well for a whole bunch of the B series, am I missing something, where did this 4 ply vs. 6 ply show up??, Tom


14/ 202. Two main wheels, 6.00-6, Type III, Firestone 604 9 lb. (+2)

look farther down at 22/ 210

[M Towsley]

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JC,

Maybe at your age it doesn't matter if you lose your license, get prosecuted, fined, etc. But for some of these guys it is their living. Other just try to do the right thing and follow the rules.

True story I told before. A European light sport aircraft needed a tire replaced due to damage at an airport. Two mechanics do so, no problem. Later in the flight the guy gets ramp checked, (I know the person who did the check, that is where I got the story). That particular European light sport manufacturer only allowed one type of tire to be used on that particular aircraft, period. Those mechanics needless to say got into trouble over it. The aircraft manufacturer finally changed to allowing more than one type of tire later, but the damage was done for the two mechanics. The individual with the FAA happens to be very, very enforcement oriented. I don't think the word discretion is in that person's vocabulary.

I don't know near enough to chime in on this, I just read and learn...