Propeller log book a requirement??

[Guest]

Re: Propeller log book a requirement??

I think that FAA guy is wrong FAR's do not support his position. Get it in writing from BATF. Yes absolute power corrupts. I think that at the FAA you can request a legal interpretation. Maybe I'll do that on the logs.

Dave

[Guest]

Re: Propeller log book a requirement??

they should talk to their own lawyers

DJ look at the PDF below it address your issue directly and is an interpretation from the faa lawyers.

look at this=> http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...2008/Busch.pdf

[magman]

Re: Propeller log book a requirement??

You could talk to a AOPA Legal Eagle.


Why not just make your log?

Take the invoice & add the LAST Annual Insp to it.

All you have to show is CURRENT Status.

Nothing else to it.

[N96337]

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DJ, I'm with Dave...they are full of it. The main reason being that most of the "modern FAA" has never SEEN an actual propeller on an airplane...they're familliar with jets. I'd forget it and not lose any sleep over it. If they bring it up again, show them THEIR rules...tell them that you don't write their rules, just live with them!
John

[NY86]

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Never ask the FAA a question you don't already know the answer to!

[Forrest Barber]

Re: Propeller log book a requirement??

Maintenance "records" are required ..... the citations are listed previously in this thread.
A "log" book CAN be a maintenance "record". I have seen them in plain bound tablets ; labled corrrectly of course.

I use an airframe "log" ; engine "log" ; prop "log" ( which can be in the back of the airframe 'log") It is just convenient to have a separate record "log" of the propeller. If you sell an engine , or prop ; then it has its own "log". The annual is actually for the aircraft as a whole....... prop, engine, airframe and various aprts and pieces hooked to it..
I include my AD list from ATP-NAV as part of the Maintenance "records" ; I print it and store it on my computer system . Stand up to the PMI's IF you are correct, they are not Gods.....
the nearest thing to God , was an older DAMI that knew his stuff ( my Dad , Al Barber) ;;;;;;;; rain , rain go away. Had to cancel Young Eagles Rally here in Ohio, missed MERFI too!!

[N74DV]

Re: Propeller log book a requirement??

Thanks everyone and thanks to the link to that .pdf Dave. That's a good read and something all aircraft owners should print and keep on hand for fiesty AP's. IA's, and FAA 'know it alls'.

[jim cooper]

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Eight months ago, or so, I traded in my wooden prop for a new mccauley 74-43 metal prop. With the new prop came......a prop log book. The AI attached the new prop and filled in a brief note in the new log book and said..." keep this with the rest of the aircraft records." It all made sense to me and I'm sure will be interesting to whoever buys the airplane. The logs for my airplane go back to 1946 and all are legible and the AI's identification numbers are mostly legible. 9 people have owned the airplane since new and the logs from the fellow who rebuilt the aircraft are VERY easy to read and very complete. Being a former vocational school teacher he was probably trained this way. So many of these old aircraft were wrecked, rebuilt, parts exchanged, etc. that its hard to tell in some cases what went on. They were inexpensive aircraft owned, for the most part, by small airports or individuals without alot of money. (The new metal prop made a BIG difference in performance! JC

[T.Taylor]

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[QUOTE=jim cooper;66808]Eight months ago, or so, I traded in my wooden prop for a new mccauley 74-43 metal prop. With the new prop came......a prop log book. The AI attached the new prop and filled in a brief note in the new log book and said..." keep this with the rest of the aircraft records."
I did the same thing 5 years ago, I was asked to do an annual inspection on the plane for a new buyer just last month, while looking thru the maintenance records, I noticed I was the last person to enter anything in the prop log, guess others didn't feel they needed to record any maintenance on the prop, I noticed the leading edge has been dressed on several occasions.

[jim cooper]

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My AI is VERY thorough! He spent a lot of time on the logs as it was the first time he had annualed the aircraft. He was impressed with the logs that the former owner-builder had kept. (It was obvious the man who rebuilt mine was very proud of his workmanship) The AI also installed the new McCauley prop and my spinner. I think you always get what you pay for pretty much wether its the airplane or the mechanic. I never try to beat him down in price. My life depends on him! I WILL agree that either category has some lousy examples! JC

[astjp2]

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Jim, what spinner are you running? Is it on a Taylorcraft? Tim

My AI is VERY thorough! He spent a lot of time on the logs as it was the first time he had annualed the aircraft. He was impressed with the logs that the former owner-builder had kept. (It was obvious the man who rebuilt mine was very proud of his workmanship) The AI also installed the new McCauley prop and my spinner. I think you always get what you pay for pretty much wether its the airplane or the mechanic. I never try to beat him down in price. My life depends on him! I WILL agree that either category has some lousy examples! JC

[jim cooper]

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I have a skullcap spinner which is polished. I much prefer the larger spinner that covers the whole hub but I'm sell ing the airplane so won't have to worry about it. JC

[fearofpavement]

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Frankly, I'm tired of government officials not knowing the true answers to common issues. I've been trying to get a straight answer from the BATFE the past few weeks regarding some Class III firearms I own from the three different officials I have talked to I get three different answers. And in that case if I were to do what two of them had said and they were inaccurate I could be looking at 30 months in federal prison. Typical government $hit.[/QUOTE]

You're not mounting those on your helicopters, are you?

[astjp2]

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You always get them to put it in writing, if they are wrong, its their butt in the sling also for giving you bad info.

AS for the log book, I would ask them in writing what the regulation is, and get their clarification also. They dont like doing that....makes them accountable. Tim

[magman]

Re: Propeller log book a requirement??

You might be interested in another view on this. Or not.

If I was doing a pre-buy & the seller could not produce the maintenance records for the

engine, carb, mags or ? I would advise the buyer to reduce their offer.

The prop is no different.