Airworthiness Certificate

[Keith T]

I am just finishing up total rebuild on 1940 BL-65, NC 29508 and somhow am missing my airworthiness, does any one know of a D A R in the area of southeast Colorado or Southwest Kansas, or better yet if this A/C left the factory with Airworthiness Certificate, S/N 2351 , This A/C had been in storage since 1965, Thanks Keith

[ajfriz]

Re: Airworthiness Certificate

I'm sure it had a AW at some time since you had to re-apply for it at every annual until the 50s. Your local FSDO can help you apply for a replacement.

[magman]

Re: Airworthiness Certificate

You may find it on the Records CD.

Also; the FSDO folks may want to actually SEE the aircraft .

The LBJ years were some time ago.

[N96337]

Re: Airworthiness Certificate

Not a real biggie. Get ahold of the local FSDO and they'll walk you through it. Basically, the plane will need an annual and the FAA inspector will want to see the paperwork from that and do a walk around, then will issue one. You'll have some forms to fill out, but it's really not that big of a deal.
John

[3Dreaming]

Re: Airworthiness Certificate

Each FSDO is different. Here they want a letter stating what happened to the AWC and requsting a new one then they send out a replacement. No coming to look at the airplane.

[jim cooper]

Re: Airworthiness Certificate

Pardon me if I mentioned this before.....My Cessna 195 did not have a proper AW according to the FAA. This was in the 80's) In 1956 the rules changed and mine was not reregistered, although it was in a plastic envelope in the rear of the plane. The FAA made a big deal out of it and the Representative in Baltimore said he could make me take it back to "Factory Standard". In the end he issued me a new one as he knew the AI and let me know he had done both of us a BIG favor. P.S. He DID come to see the airplane....TWICE! (Probably it was boring in the office.)

[KewFlyer]

Re: Airworthiness Certificate

A fellow pilot here had the same issue upon completing a Champ restoration. Went to the FSDO/Leesburg VA and presented his case. An FAA rep visited and inspected the plane with the IA and after the interview he when back to his office the next day, complete some forms and a month later the AW showed up in the mail. In the forms, the owner had to write in the reason(s) why the AW was missing; since he did not know, he just wrote " lost during restoration process". The FAA rep required : copies of the log books since day one as part of the paperwork as well as pictures of the plane in/out and of the engine. A very pleasant experience, nonetheless. The FAA rep mentioned that he would be placing notations on the aircraft file to record the transaction. Hope this helps.

[magman]

Re: Airworthiness Certificate

Prior to 1956 the AW Cert expired every year.

Most of the regs & ratings ( DAMI = similar to IA ) were different.


When a aircraft is out of service for MANY years it is anyone's GUESS the the parts that make up the "aircraft" are in fact correct.

I've seen aircraft with wrong engines, props, carbs & other things.

A notable one had a higher HP engine with the wrong carb & prop.

No record of required fuselage upgrades for HP increase.

There are variances between models that concern Gross Weight, speeds etc.

Some are not at all obvious.


I would not be comfortable signing a parts collection as an aircraft without seeing it.

[Edwin Otha]

Re: Airworthiness Certificate

Tell them it blew out of the plane on the last flight and you need a replacement. Bring a copy of the page showing the current Annual. Don't bring the logs, it only confuses them.
EO

[NY86]

Re: Airworthiness Certificate

Get the FAA CD first. If it never had a permanent one issued then there wasn't one to blow out the window...

[Edwin Otha]

Re: Airworthiness Certificate

If it went into storage in 1965 it has one. The point is, ask for a replacement not a re-issue. Or do the Conformity Inspection it's your time.
EO

[astjp2]

Re: Airworthiness Certificate

I went in and asked for one, they verified the registration and typed it up while I waited. NO inspection and it doesnt have to be in annual. Your IA would have to verify that you have one before signing off the annual. Tim

[Keith T]

Re: Airworthiness Certificate

I am just finishing up total rebuild on 1940 BL-65, NC 29508 and somhow am missing my airworthiness, does any one know of a D A R in the area of southeast Colorado or Southwest Kansas, or better yet if this A/C left the factory with Airworthiness Certificate, S/N 2351 , This A/C had been in storage since 1965, Thanks Keith

This A/C went into storage in 1956 instead of 65, have been in contact with FSDO and things look promising, as had a copy of AW when it left factory 11-1940 and another in 1956 , Thank you all for help, am looking for 3or 4 cowling locks dont know brand but they have a blade and then 1/4 turn to lock NC 29508

[N96337]

Re: Airworthiness Certificate

Prior to 1956 the AW Cert expired every year.

Most of the regs & ratings ( DAMI = similar to IA ) were different.


When a aircraft is out of service for MANY years it is anyone's GUESS the the parts that make up the "aircraft" are in fact correct.

I've seen aircraft with wrong engines, props, carbs & other things.

A notable one had a higher HP engine with the wrong carb & prop.

No record of required fuselage upgrades for HP increase.

There are variances between models that concern Gross Weight, speeds etc.

Some are not at all obvious.


I would not be comfortable signing a parts collection as an aircraft without seeing it.

This is why it would need an annual/conformity inspection. ALL these things should be addressed at each annual inspection.
John

[3Dreaming]

Re: Airworthiness Certificate

This A/C went into storage in 1956 instead of 65, have been in contact with FSDO and things look promising, as had a copy of AW when it left factory 11-1940 and another in 1956 , Thank you all for help, am looking for 3or 4 cowling locks dont know brand but they have a blade and then 1/4 turn to lock NC 29508

If it is open cowl then I think you are talking about Boing fasteners. If that is right then do a serch on here to find them.