bungee tool for rent?

[Guest]

Re: bungee tool for rent?

swapped the bungees today. it was INCREDIBLY EASY with Dave's tool! The tool is extremely well designed for the task. Took us longer to remove the bungee covers and seat than it did to actually put on the bungees.

The old bungees were in fact 9010HD's despite it being a Jan/1946 BC12D so I was glad that I ordered the correct ones. The plane now sits level whereas it used to sit left wing low and also the safety cables had really dug into the old bungees. It's all back together the proper way now and a few test flights around the patch and all is well.

Is this something I can make a logbook entry in myself? or does an A&P have to look it over and make the entry?

DJ,

Replacing elastic shock absorbers on landing gear is specifically listed as a preventive maintenance item in FAR 43 Appendix A paragraph c(2).

If you look at FAR 43.3(g) you will see that a pilot is authorized do preventive maintenance on an aircraft he owns or operates (unless you operate under part 121, 127, 129,135).

So you can do this all yourself but you need to make a log entry per FAR 43.9

I recall the instructions that come with the tool tell you to make a log entry but don't explain all the legaleeze of why it's appropriate for you to do that.

Perhaps I should add that. What do you think?

Thanks, Dave.

[N74DV]

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It probably would have been better to have your A&P sign it of BEFORE you took it around the patch to check it out...

yeah but I recall seeing somewhere it being written that the shock cords were preventative maintenance items that can be done by the owner holding a PPL... but my memory had faded.

it's really not a complicated process. less complicated and less things to go wrong than say changing brakes or the like.

Albeit, I agree to be completely legal I should have made an entry before the test flight.

[94973]

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I used the tool Sunday, and it does work great! It got me thinking about the seat sling, though. Who recommends what for replacing the seat sling? What about seat cushions?

By-the-way, anybody ever use the space below the sling for stowing camping gear? I think my tent and sleeping bag will fit under there.

[Guest]

Re: bungee tool for rent?

I used the tool Sunday, and it does work great! It got me thinking about the seat sling, though. Who recommends what for replacing the seat sling? What about seat cushions?

By-the-way, anybody ever use the space below the sling for stowing camping gear? I think my tent and sleeping bag will fit under there.

I purchased mine from Airtex, a rubberized canvas.

I saw a post on her a few years ago from one of the guys in Alaska that had a removable aluminum tray that came to stow stuff.

Dave

[Richard Boyer]

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For really long crosscountry stuff I bungie my tie down kit and a couple of quarts of oil under there. Since it is directly below me, I just add it to the Pilot and Passenger weight. The only problem is that it isn't exactly easy to get under there.

[94973]

Re: bungee tool for rent?

Instead of using screws to secure the front of the sling, has anybody used any kind of clamps or snaps? I'd hate for the front of the sling to fail in flight, would leave me sitting kinda low, on my new bungees

[Richard Boyer]

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and of course when it did fail in flight it would be at the absolute WORST time! (Murphy Rules!)

[Forrest Barber]

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The sling is stapled and then wrapped around the wood bar that is bolted to the airframe, very hard to come loose if installed properly the wrapping takes up the load and allows for adjustment. . Seat cushions make great pads to sleep on while camping, there is a lot of space not used under your knees and upper legs, that is where I put my bags & tent.

[Jim Herpst]

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Bruce Bixler Pres of the Taylorcraft Club has had one out floating around on a FREE loan basis for years. He was asking in the last newsletter its whereabouts. Sure hope we dont have a freeloader scumbucket in our pack.

That type of thing is what seperates us typically...the being honest part and passing it along.. any one in need I supose contact Bruce..hopefully he knows where it is now .If not does anyone ?

[Guest]

Re: bungee tool for rent?

Bruce Bixler Pres of the Taylorcraft Club has had one out floating around on a FREE loan basis for years. He was asking in the last newsletter its whereabouts. Sure hope we dont have a freeloader scumbucket in our pack.

That type of thing is what seperates us typically...the being honest part and passing it along.. any one in need I supose contact Bruce..hopefully he knows where it is now .If not does anyone ?

Hi Jim,

Of course I would rather sell a tool to all owners but you are in general correct about the club tool however it is for TOC members only as I understand it.

So one slight correction to your statment is that it's not entirely for free you have to be a Taylorcraft Owners Club member to use the tool not just a member of this web forum.

So forum members please go join the TOC for $12 a year, you get the newsletter too.

Also I swear to you all that I do not now have nor have I ever had the club tool.

Dave

[Jim Herpst]

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Dave is correct. SOORRY thinking of course all here are members of the TOC The FOUNDATION TOO !

Na Dave I was not thinking of you at all ...WE believe you are not holding the tool.....!!

Now whoever is the statement stands Nice day here in clear no wind blue skies high of 70 ....hmm wonder what my home up in Pittsburgh is like today.....gotta get the Ace flying soon !! (Soon will be spring)

[Forrest Barber]

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Just return it to Bruce in a plain Brown wrapper and you will not incure the wrath of all Basset hounds. OR you can have one of two from the Taylorcraft Foundation for a healthy deposit and you pay shipping both ways... The dues are now $15.00 / year for each organization.
Why would anybody be on the discussion group for more than a couple of months and not join both organizations is beyond me. We encourage all to register, lurk about , join in the discussion , see if it is your cup of tea and then join up. The Owner's Club will do three newsletters in 2007 & the Foundation will do three....T
The Foundation has all the pictures to show PROPER installation of the cords. one of many pics is attached. this shows one cord installed, safety cable installed and second cord going on , right side, original factory tool.
bye I hear a deer knocking at the door!!

[Hank Jarrett]

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Biggest problem for club and foundation dues for me is I always forget to send them in! What I need is for Forrest to just bill my account on Pay Pal or something. Not like I'm ever going to leave the fold (sorry to disappoint some who get tired of my pontifications )
I plan to see if I can keep my membership after I'm dead (but at least that will shut me up).
Hank

[Pearson]

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DJ,

Sitting around a hotel in Baltimore, bored out of my mind, I had nothing better do than peruse the FAA website for the regs on owner maintenance. Obviously if a mechanic (familiar with Taylorcraft) is around, it would make sense to tap that knowledge and experience.

Pasted below is three sections. The first, paragraph g, states that we as owners can do "preventive maintenance". The second part is Appendix A which specifically lists what constitutes "preventive maintenance". Check out item number 2. And the third part tells you what to put in the logbook. As you can see you just make reference to the maintenance manual or AC43.13, which is the approved methods and practices. For the sake of brevity I edited out some of the legal lingo in the first part. It is still pretty long, but I thought you or others might want to see the entire list of items.


§ 43.3 Persons authorized to perform maintenance, preventive maintenance, rebuilding, and alterations.

(a) Except as provided in this section and §43.17, no person may maintain, rebuild, alter, or perform preventive maintenance on an aircraft, airframe, aircraft engine, propeller, appliance, or component part to which this part applies. Those items, the performance of which is a major alteration, a major repair, or preventive maintenance, are listed in appendix A.

(b) The holder of a mechanic certificate may perform maintenance, ...................

(c) The holder of a repairman certificate may perform...................

(d) A person working under the supervision of a holder of a mechanic or repairman certificate may perform the maintenance,...............

(e) The holder of a repair station certificate may..........

(f) The holder of an air carrier operating certificate .........

(g) Except for holders of a sport pilot certificate, the holder of a pilot certificate issued under part 61 may perform preventive maintenance on any aircraft owned or operated by that pilot which is not used under part 121, 129, or 135 of this chapter. The holder of a sport pilot certificate may perform preventive maintenance on an aircraft owned or operated by that pilot and issued a special airworthiness certificate in the light-sport category.



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FROM APPENDIX A

(c) Preventive maintenance. Preventive maintenance is limited to the following work, provided it does not involve complex assembly operations:

(1) Removal, installation, and repair of landing gear tires.

(2) Replacing elastic shock absorber cords on landing gear.

(3) Servicing landing gear shock struts by adding oil, air, or both.

(4) Servicing landing gear wheel bearings, such as cleaning and greasing.

(5) Replacing defective safety wiring or cotter keys.

(6) Lubrication not requiring disassembly other than removal of nonstructural items such as cover plates, cowlings, and fairings.

(7) Making simple fabric patches not requiring rib stitching or the removal of structural parts or control surfaces. In the case of balloons, the making of small fabric repairs to envelopes (as defined in, and in accordance with, the balloon manufacturers' instructions) not requiring load tape repair or replacement.

(8) Replenishing hydraulic fluid in the hydraulic reservoir.

(9) Refinishing decorative coating of fuselage, balloon baskets, wings tail group surfaces (excluding balanced control surfaces), fairings, cowlings, landing gear, cabin, or cockpit interior when removal or disassembly of any primary structure or operating system is not required.

(10) Applying preservative or protective material to components where no disassembly of any primary structure or operating system is involved and where such coating is not prohibited or is not contrary to good practices.

(11) Repairing upholstery and decorative furnishings of the cabin, cockpit, or balloon basket interior when the repairing does not require disassembly of any primary structure or operating system or interfere with an operating system or affect the primary structure of the aircraft.

(12) Making small simple repairs to fairings, nonstructural cover plates, cowlings, and small patches and reinforcements not changing the contour so as to interfere with proper air flow.

(13) Replacing side windows where that work does not interfere with the structure or any operating system such as controls, electrical equipment, etc.

(14) Replacing safety belts.

(15) Replacing seats or seat parts with replacement parts approved for the aircraft, not involving disassembly of any primary structure or operating system.

(16) Trouble shooting and repairing broken circuits in landing light wiring circuits.

(17) Replacing bulbs, reflectors, and lenses of position and landing lights.

(18) Replacing wheels and skis where no weight and balance computation is involved.

(19) Replacing any cowling not requiring removal of the propeller or disconnection of flight controls.

(20) Replacing or cleaning spark plugs and setting of spark plug gap clearance.

(21) Replacing any hose connection except hydraulic connections.

(22) Replacing prefabricated fuel lines.

(23) Cleaning or replacing fuel and oil strainers or filter elements.

(24) Replacing and servicing batteries.

(25) Cleaning of balloon burner pilot and main nozzles in accordance with the balloon manufacturer's instructions.

(26) Replacement or adjustment of nonstructural standard fasteners incidental to operations.

(27) The interchange of balloon baskets and burners on envelopes when the basket or burner is designated as interchangeable in the balloon type certificate data and the baskets and burners are specifically designed for quick removal and installation.

(28) The installations of anti-misfueling devices to reduce the diameter of fuel tank filler openings provided the specific device has been made a part of the aircraft type certificiate data by the aircraft manufacturer, the aircraft manufacturer has provided FAA-approved instructions for installation of the specific device, and installation does not involve the disassembly of the existing tank filler opening.

(29) Removing, checking, and replacing magnetic chip detectors.

(30) The inspection and maintenance tasks prescribed and specifically identified as preventive maintenance in a primary category aircraft type certificate or supplemental type certificate holder's approved special inspection and preventive maintenance program when accomplished on a primary category aircraft provided:

(i) They are performed by the holder of at least a private pilot certificate issued under part 61 who is the registered owner (including co-owners) of the affected aircraft and who holds a certificate of competency for the affected aircraft (1) issued by a school approved under §147.21(e) of this chapter; (2) issued by the holder of the production certificate for that primary category aircraft that has a special training program approved under §21.24 of this subchapter; or (3) issued by another entity that has a course approved by the Administrator; and

(ii) The inspections and maintenance tasks are performed in accordance with instructions contained by the special inspection and preventive maintenance program approved as part of the aircraft's type design or supplemental type design.

(31) Removing and replacing self-contained, front instrument panel-mounted navigation and communication devices that employ tray-mounted connectors that connect the unit when the unit is installed into the instrument panel, (excluding automatic flight control systems, transponders, and microwave frequency distance measuring equipment (DME)). The approved unit must be designed to be readily and repeatedly removed and replaced, and pertinent instructions must be provided. Prior to the unit's intended use, and operational check must be performed in accordance with the applicable sections of part 91 of this chapter.

(32) Updating self-contained, front instrument panel-mounted Air Traffic Control (ATC) navigational software data bases (excluding those of automatic flight control systems, transponders, and microwave frequency distance measuring equipment (DME)) provided no disassembly of the unit is required and pertinent instructions are provided. Prior to the unit's intended use, an operational check must be performed in accordance with applicable sections of part 91 of this chapter.




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§ 43.9 Content, form, and disposition of maintenance, preventive maintenance, rebuilding, and alteration records (except inspections performed in accordance with part 91, part 125, §135.411(a)(1), and §135.419 of this chapter).

(a) Maintenance record entries. Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (c) of this section, each person who maintains, performs preventive maintenance, rebuilds, or alters an aircraft, airframe, aircraft engine, propeller, appliance, or component part shall make an entry in the maintenance record of that equipment containing the following information:

(1) A description (or reference to data acceptable to the Administrator) of work performed.

(2) The date of completion of the work performed.

(3) The name of the person performing the work if other than the person specified in paragraph (a)(4) of this section.

(4) If the work performed on the aircraft, airframe, aircraft engine, propeller, appliance, or component part has been performed satisfactorily, the signature, certificate number, and kind of certificate held by the person approving the work. The signature constitutes the approval for return to service only for the work performed.

[Forrest Barber]

Re: bungee tool for rent?

That is the gospel and sure you can do the shock cords IF they are done correctly and properly signed off in the aircraft maintenance records. Who can do "work" on an Experimental Aircraft Anybody!!
The final responsibility is with the A&P or Repairman who does the "conditon inspection"
Who may work on a certified airplane? anybody if they comply with the applicable FAR , supervision, preventative maintenance, etc.... The problems I have seen are people working on these ships that do not know what they are doing.
I just adjusted the idle air on a Stromberg after the owner and his buddy had been screwing it the wrong way to "lean" the mixture. A bit nippy out there in the field here in Ohio!