News from the Factory III

[CraigH]

Re: News from the Factory III

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I see this is that Taylorcraft (or Harry) NEVER HAS been an approved manufacturer of Cubs... so his signature (as manufacturer) on your 337 doesn't mean anything... I guess my question is what basis does he have to sign off work on another brand of aircraft? If that's legit, he could sign off work on a Lear as well... or am I missing something here??
JH

Just Harry's way of trying to BS himself out of another situation. Nothing new here.

[Winston L.]

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If a copy was sent to the FSDO he will be hearing about it soon.

Winston

[Ragwing nut]

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Forrest, do you know if Taylor Craft is a "ligitimate" manufacturer. The status of my log books is....the mechanic signed off the work he performed on my Cub in the log books and Harry provided an FAA form 337 (major repairs and/or alterations of an aircraft), attesting to the work performed under FAA standards and guidelines, signed by himself, as a "manufacturer". There are no IA notations. Harry is certainly not and IA...am I back to square one? I've made numeruos calls to the FAA in San Antonio, without response.

Any info you or anyone else, for that matter, that may be knowledgable about FAA Form 337 verses IA inspection notations, is greatly appreciate. My plane is still in limbo until we know what this all means.

Appreciate any info/input/advice.

Donnetta

Where did Harry sign it and did he include a certificate number? There is a possibilty that he committed a federal crime if he signed the 337 without having any approval to do so.

Mike

[lawheelock]

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If you look up the N number on that posted "Sport Plane" you will find that it is a 180hp F22C residing in Round Top TX.
Larry Wheelock

[mulwyk]

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So...did the Harry Factory build a F22? Or does he just have a photograph of one?

Bob

[heliplane2]

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To answer your question, no, Harry never built the F22, it's just a picture he is using to lure more innocent people to take their money and run! If anyone is reading this situation, please dont' believe anything Harry is trying to do! According to the FAA regs, if he doesn't have a certificate to manufacture airplanes, or fix them, then he cannot sign anything back to airworthiness! Only an IA can sign the aircraft back to airworthiness after the aircraft has been restored or a DER after the aircraft was built new! I suggest notifying the FAA till you get a response. So his signature is not valid at all. Also, if you wish, find yourself a good IA that can help you in this matter.

heliplane2 A&P/IA

[heliplane2]

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To answer your question, no, Harry never built the F22, it's just a picture he is using to lure more innocent people to take their money and run! If anyone is reading this situation, please dont' believe anything Harry is trying to do! According to the FAA regs, if he doesn't have a certificate to manufacture airplanes, or fix them, then he cannot sign anything back to airworthiness! Only an IA can sign the aircraft back to airworthiness after the aircraft has been restored or a DER after the aircraft was built new! I suggest notifying the FAA till you get a response. So his signature is not valid at all. Also, if you wish, find yourself a good IA that can help you in this matter.

heliplane2 A&P/IA

One more thing, try and see if a yearly condition inspection or an annual can help to certify your aircraft back to airworthiness in this situation.

heliplane2

[redefininglife]

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Will someone just shoot me......then my kids can handle it.

[Forrest Barber]

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Right is might! Hang in there Donneta , I really enjoyed the conversation today, I flew our Cub here today. Send me the information we discussed and WE will see what we can do.

[OldBits2]

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The sign off can only be good if the factory had an authoization to undertake production (APIS, or production certificate, and if the work done was in accordance with the limitations on that certificate. In that instance the "manufacturer" has established personnel qualified to return the aircraft to service in his manuals, and those persons can sign the 337 document.

I do not know, but suspect that no such production approval holder (PAH) authorities were ever in place and FAA approved, so the 337 may be worthless, however, absent proof that it was an intentional fraud rather than a misunderstanding, it is unlikely any prosecution would be forthcoming.

[Texas Factory]

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The Factory on the Newspaper Again
http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/ts_...74083_0_10_0_C

[jgerard]

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"Discussions hinted at a new development concerning a favorable action by the FAA to Ingram and his company."

Does this mean he thinks he is going to get an AD on the wing struts and ground all flying Tcrafts until they buy new ones from him.

[VictorBravo]

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"Discussions hinted at a new development concerning a favorable action by the FAA to Ingram and his company."

Does this mean he thinks he is going to get an AD on the wing struts and ground all flying Tcrafts until they buy new ones from him.

If that is a possibility, it seems that someone in authority... ahem... should contact the FAA with a pre-emptive strike, warning the FAA that someone MAY potentially try to abuse the system for their own financial gain.

If it were me, I'd be compiling the data NOW that shows Taylorcrafts do not suffer wing strut problems historically, and that there is no appreciable record of Taylorcrafts falling out of the sky because of the wing struts. There is nothing as good as having documented facts and data to cut through BS and confusion!

I'm very very sure that a pre-emptive strike putting the feds on notice that something fishy may be going on would be a LOT better than waiting for a false alarm to be brought to the FAA and THEN having all of us shouting "wait... no... there is no problem with our struts!" in defense.

[tim]

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so whats the deal is it closed or they still alive down their and whats the deal with the struts ???

[jgerard]

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There was a post that was supposed to be from the factory(Harry) accusing Forrest and some others of conspiring to create an AD on the struts and getting a PMA to manufacture new ones so they could sell, what was the number? something like 3 million dollars in new struts. Total BS-!! not going to happen.

On the other hand lets say the FAA is going to grant Harry permission to manufacture parts and aircraft. NO BODY trusts the guy, that will make selling product kinda hard don't you think!