Factory Sherriff's sale

[whake]

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My first flight in a Taylocraft was Oct 1, 1943. Thirty-nine hours later on Nov.17 1943 I was on my way to become a Navy pilot. I flew all the Navy fighters and Dive bombers thru the end of WW2. I have owned Beechcrafts,Cessnas and Pipers. My last commercial plane was a Beechcraft Sundowner, a great private plane for fun flyiing. I own a '45 BC-12D. Thought I would loose my physical so I dropped into the Sport Pilot Program. I like the Taylorcraft and I fly it several times a week. I was a director of R&D of a very large corporation, I saw many projects succeed and many fail. The T-craft requires a pilot with reasonable degree of natural apptitude. Trigear planes need little apptitude. Taylorcraft needs an established company like Wag-Aero who can sell parts ( they have some T-craft parts now) and an occasional airframe for the builders. They have the Marketing expertise and a product base to work from. However if you young guys want to start something you can count me in.

[whake]

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My first flight in a Taylocraft was Oct 1, 1943. Thirty-nine hours later on Nov.17 1943 I was on my way to become a Navy pilot. I flew all the Navy fighters and Dive bombers thru the end of WW2. I have owned Beechcrafts,Cessnas and Pipers. My last commercial plane was a Beechcraft Sundowner, a great private plane for fun flyiing. I own a '45 BC-12D. Thought I would loose physical so I dropped into the Sport Pilot Program. I like the Taylorcraft and I fly it several times a week. I was a director of R&D of a very large corporation, I saw many projects succeed and many fail. The T-craft requires a pilot with reasonable degree of natural apptitude. Trigear planes need little apptitude. Taylorcraft needs an established company like Wag-Aero who can sell parts ( they have some T-craft parts now) and an occasional airframe for the builders. They have the Marketing expertise and a base to work from.

[cpirrmann]

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Very good dialog here, many good ideas. We should change our name to the Taylorcraft Advisory Board

[Sloanlow]

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All the wishes in the world can't beat a good marketing plan.

If I owned that company I would have at least one hundred demonstrators leased to FBO's all over the country. If you got tail wheel instruction in the United States you would get it in a T-cart.

Then I would act like legend and cub crafters produced trash, and price my planes about 10% over their equal models and have a strong distributor program.

Then I would have a refurbish team to refurbish existing t-carts so that those ships would be everywhere and the public could admire them.

If one cracked up somewhere i would send a truck to get the thing and fix it up for the insured.

Hell you have to look for opportunity

Here is one Harry, Build a dummy for Cabellas to hang from their ceiling in that new Cabellas in San Antonio. Hell thats in your back yard. The J-3 hanging in the Cabellas in Buda aint hurting Cub Crafter any nor Legend.

Jim

[VictorBravo]

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Perhaps before we hit Senator McCarthy with a ball bat, we should wrap it in the Venona project which proved 40 years later that the people in the government he was prosecuting actually were Soviet spies.

I was unaware of any vindication of McCarthy in terms of actual Soviet spies in the government, but I am painfully aware of the results of his actions and those of his followers in the entertainment business.

My family had several friends who were on the "blacklist" in the 50's. People committed suicide because their lives were ruined by mere accusations. People who were as loyal Americans as anyone else were jobless, homeless, and prevented from having a job as a toilet cleaner in the industry they helped create.

My family was lucky, not because they gave up their souls and jumped on McCarthy's bandwagon (they didn't), but only because my old man happened to be more famous in America at that moment in history than McCarthy, Truman or Stalin.

I am sure that there were Communist spies in America then and now. I'm sure we had a few nice infiltrators in Russia as well. McCarthy took a probably legitimate threat of some number of spies and infiltrators and blew it up into a national witch hunt, with far far far more collateral damage than was ever acceptable.

My Louisville Slugger is still tight in my grip.

[dedrekon]

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More famous than Truman or Stalin? THAT narrows things down pretty quickly.....Your father must have been the great Milton Berle. He was a very, very funny guy. His comedic timing was as good as gets, no one ever did it better, even if he did steal all his jokes
My favorite: "Every time somebody goes to a delicatessen and orders pastrami on white bread...somewhere a Jew dies."


Maybe you have to BE Jewish to appreciate that one.....

[mhorowit]

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More famous than Truman or Stalin? THAT narrows things down pretty quickly.....Your father must have been the great Milton Berle. He was a very, very funny guy. His comedic timing was as good as gets, no one ever did it better, even if he did steal all his jokes
My favorite: "Every time somebody goes to a delicatessen and orders pastrami on white bread...somewhere a Jew dies."


Maybe you have to BE Jewish to appreciate that one.....

Yup; especially if ordered with mayo.

[Chet Peek]

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Tribe, before we jump on our horses and ride off in all directions at once, we need to find out what the real facts are. Anyone have friends there, or a phone number of the Chamber of Commerce, or the newspaper.
If it is a sheriff's sale, I think it must be published in the newspaper of record in that county for a certain number of issues.
From what I saw on my visit there, about all that would have any value would be the useful tooling and the Approved Type Certificates.
Chet Peek

[barnstmr]

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This is poised to be a pivotal event in the legacy/history of this airplane design. I sure would like to see the Foundation get organized and make this happen. It would take a lot of work by some dedicated folks. It is unlikely to get organized very quickly. Perhaps there are some of you sharp retired businessmen that would be willing to form an action committee and perhaps locate someone to underwrite the effort to get this rolling. The rest of us in the working world can provide support in various ways. It would be a shame for all those fixtures, jigs, drawings, and the TC to get liquidated and separated.

[VictorBravo]

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His comedic timing was as good as gets, no one ever did it better, even if he did steal all his jokes:

Maybe you have to BE Jewish to appreciate that one.....

Well, since there's a thread going about trademarks and copyrights, I'll say that the official family response is..." Mr. Berle did not steal any jokes, but he occasionally found them before they were lost " They all did, to be honest, but Milton made it into a trademark of sorts. No such thing as bad press and all that.

I apologize for steering this thread away from aviation, but the McCarthy thing did affect people I knew very badly. I'd usually rather be just another airport bum in this group than a relation to a deceased comedian. Occasionally to support a point or tell a funny story, but trust me... among the aviation vermin of the world I enjoy being known for whatever I bring to the table myself.

And yes, you have to be Polish from Chicago to understand some Polish Chicago humor, and you'd have to have had a real Pastrami or Corned Beef on Rye to understand the incorrectness of the white bread

[Joel Severinghaus]

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Factory closure is a false alarm, I hope.

I just spoke with Diana Rivera at Taylorcraft Aviation this morning, giving her my credit card info for a parts order (lower cowling, nose tank, assorted fairings). She said they're still in business, still shipping parts, and said there was an issue with a disgruntled former employee who was fired and then got a customer to bring a legal claim against the company. She made it sound like it was no big deal, and was being cleared up.

[mgold]

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Hi guys and gals I am glad the factory may make it. I on the other hand have
Pastrami on a bangel with pepper jack mayo and mustard. And before you go nuts. it is turkey Pastrami. Living in the Ozark is hard to get good anything. haha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jrzangger]

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I think Joel's recent experience with the factory is a positive one and Bill is correct about the power of an accusation. And by the way, isn't $10,000 too large of an amount for "small" claims court?

[VictorBravo]

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Hi guys and gals I am glad the factory may make it. I on the other hand have
Pastrami on a bangel with pepper jack mayo and mustard. And before you go nuts. it is turkey Pastrami. Living in the Ozark is hard to get good anything. haha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike, we better send this guy a care package

[cpirrmann]

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Mike, we better send this guy a care package

I need somebody to drop some White Castles on their way over