Change in FAA approach to maintanence on light aircraft

[waltermrich]

Has any one heard about a change in the FAA's rules about Part 23 light aircraft maintenance requirements, I received an email from a flying club That I belong too with an attachment of the FAA"s rule change similar to what Canada does .

[barnstmr]

Re: Change in FAA approach to maintanence on light aircraft

Part 23 does not deal with Maintenance. They are talking about changes to the part 23 design (airworthiness) requirements. I am not awre of any changes in the works for maintenance rules which are under Part 43.

[waltermrich]

Re: Change in FAA approach to maintanence on light aircraft

Thanks for the information, I was not clear on what it is about

[N96337]

Re: Change in FAA approach to maintanence on light aircraft

The scoop I got over on the Supercub site was that it was changes to persons qualified to do certain maintenance items to Part 23 certified aircraft. It somewhat looked like a step towards an "owner maintenance" category, such as the one it Canada...but it had a long ways to go. The question was also brought up as to the relevance to CAR3 certified aircraft applicability. I doubt anything will happen quickly.

[Nefj40]

Re: Change in FAA approach to maintanence on light aircraft

Here's a link. I read somewhere that the FAA has until Dec. 2015 to make a decision.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Feaaforums.org%2Fattachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D1746%26d%3D1332713559&ei=GbpwUt-vAoSWiQKMpYDoDQ&usg=AFQjCNEGSYeGF_DnT-sEu2FkTA6U1bkwnQ&bvm=bv.55617003,d.cGE

[astjp2]

Re: Change in FAA approach to maintanence on light aircraft

That is what I want, another owner trying to maintain their aiplane....

[taylorcraftbc65]

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Oh for the simple stuff like changing your Tires, and pulling and packing your wheel bearings, it is fine. My A&P has seen me work on Cars, Motorcycles, and Ultralights, so when he wanted to look at my my NAS-3, he just told me to pull it off, and bring it to him. He will look at it when I re-install it, but he KNOWS that I won't try anything that I can't do.

[astjp2]

Re: Change in FAA approach to maintanence on light aircraft

You must be one of the few....

Oh for the simple stuff like changing your Tires, and pulling and packing your wheel bearings, it is fine. My A&P has seen me work on Cars, Motorcycles, and Ultralights, so when he wanted to look at my my NAS-3, he just told me to pull it off, and bring it to him. He will look at it when I re-install it, but he KNOWS that I won't try anything that I can't do.

[Hank Jarrett]

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For that kind of trust, your IA needs to know you....VERY WELL, and you need to know your IA. Same kind of relationship I have had. When they know you know as much about your plane as they do (usually more), and trust you to tell them what you are doing, it is a special relationship. Problem is, HE has a LOT to loose if you screw up. If you get killed, it would be your own fault, but he is the one who has to answer the questions after the fact. We have to protect our mechanics. If I screw up, it will be documented that he knew nothing about it. I would rather have him check behind me since I would like to keep doing this stuff a few more years. He can see things I would miss, and I trust him more than I trust myself.

Hank

[taylorcraftbc65]

Re: Change in FAA approach to maintanence on light aircraft

That is the exact same way with me, and this guy.

[waltermrich]

Re: Change in FAA approach to maintanence on light aircraft

To auume everyone who does not have an A&P licence and works on there aircraft is not smart enough too is simply taking on a lot of assumptions , Thats why there is the experimental category, as well as owner approved maintanence, It takes a lot of time and effort to get a Airframe and power plant licence, Im sure there arer thousands of pilots that would be just fine working on there owner operated aircraft, I look forward to changes.

[cvavon]

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In the 8 years that i have owned the Taylorcraft i have used 4 AI 3 of them had never seen a Tcraft so threw the process we trained each other or i trained them the one I use now has owned a Tcraft and knows them so we have that trust between us. now what i like is the being able to do things to my plane with out all the useless FAA paperwork and the cost involved to keep it legal.I will use a A&P other then my self to do the yearly inspections as two sets of eye are better then one.But the freedom to do things i want to do to my plane will be nice.

[N96337]

Re: Change in FAA approach to maintanence on light aircraft

There are a lot of owners that I'd rather have work on their airplane than a lot of A&P/IA's that I've seen!

[M Towsley]

Re: Change in FAA approach to maintanence on light aircraft

I'm all for common sense and working on my own airplane but one of my concerns is re-sale value. Use of non-standard/non-approved parts, etc., could have buyers devaluate the aircraft wondering what parts were used and if they consider it as airworthy as it was in Standard class. Plus, there are always owners willing to cut corners to save a buck not caring about themselves or other owners down the line.

[taylorcraftbc65]

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I like to keep everything stock on the plane if it is still available, and my A&P knows that I know as much about a lot of my plane as he does. He got his A&P last year, and has never worked on this old stuff, though he watched his then future Father -in-Law building my Taylorcraft, this is the first one he has had the chance to work on. That is the reason that he lets me do a lot of the work on her, and just checks up on it when I am done. I rebuilt the brakes when I first got her, and they have worked flawlessly ever since. He watched me, checking on my work procedures, and then watched the brake test, signing it off afterwards. He had never SEEN Shinn brakes before that. I learned how they worked from YOU FINE PEOPLE, go check the archives of my posts here in 1994. My brakes after I did what you guys told me to do, stop her in a straight line, and will HOLD HER at 2,000 RPM.
Brie