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  • #16
    Re: Selling my 1946 BC12-D

    Here’s my two cents worth. I can think of at least two general categories of buyers that should be interested in your plane at this price. One would be someone that wants a show plane, but is only interested in fine tuning an existing plane. To be honest from my point of view there doesn’t appear to be much left to fine tune, but then I’m not a judge. Based on your posts on this forum, and our discussions last year at Oshkosh, one while making a close inspection of your plane, I can only imagine how much you have spent in time and money to get the plane in the excellent condition that it is. What I would say is certain is that it is substantially more than your present asking price.

    A second general category would be a pilot looking to own a LSA. A Taylorcraft is fun to fly and cheap to operate. Yours is ideal since it will need little work outside of oil changes and annuals for a number of years to come, has been restored meticulously and has complete logs, something that I have found to be rare. I purchased a 1941 BC12-65 with a friend about a year ago that met the fun and cheap to buy gas for criteria. If your plane had been for sale at this price when we were looking a year ago and if I knew then what I know now, I would have been calling you to make arrangements for purchase.
    Last edited by blakecarl; 05-09-2010, 08:49.
    Blake Carlson
    Crookston, MN
    1941 BC12-65
    N47665
    Member #1009

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    • #17
      Re: Selling my 1946 BC12-D

      Well, my Taylorcraft has been officially accepted for the July 31 aircraft auction at Oshkosh, after Tom Poberezny himself emailed me to talk me down on my reserve price.

      Official website of the EAA AirVenture Oshkosh fly-in convention in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, attracting more than 500,000 people and 10,000 airplanes each July.


      I can still sell her myself before then, saving you the 10% buyers premium they will charge at the Oshkosh auction. Please email me for details about the plane: [email protected].
      Joel Severinghaus
      Des Moines, Iowa
      TF# 657

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      • #18
        Re: Selling my 1946 BC12-D

        Good luck, Joel.

        If you sell beforehand, and need a place to camp at Oshkosh, you know where our campsite will be, and you would be very welcome to join us.

        Rob

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        • #19
          Re: Selling my 1946 BC12-D

          Thanks, Rob. I'll build me an Irregulars qualifying wing rib yet!

          Although if I sell the Taylorcraft before Oshkosh, I'd hope to then be camped with the modern planes in the North 40, below the wing of the new Light Sport that replaces her.

          The EAA auction folks say to await an information packet in June, which will explain details such as where the auction planes will be parked during AirVenture. It'd be nice to camp beside her one last time, but it may be Camp Scholler for me and my tent if the auction parking site precludes camping.
          Joel Severinghaus
          Des Moines, Iowa
          TF# 657

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          • #20
            Re: Selling my 1946 BC12-D

            Joel, what light sport are you looking at?

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            • #21
              Re: Selling my 1946 BC12-D

              My LSA shopping criteria:

              Tricycle gear, because my clients will be soloing my plane on concrete runways. And because the insurance companies say so.

              High wing, because the Taylorcraft has taught me the value of shade and rain shelter when camping at fly-ins. Also because high wing and low door opening makes it easier to climb in and out, especially for older clients or passengers (like my elderly parents, who can't climb into the Taylorcraft.)

              As much useful load as possible, preferably at least 600 pounds. With baggage room to take a week's camping gear to Oshkosh, and enough long-cross-country comfort that my wife will want me to fly her places.

              Ambivalent about glass panels, especially after years of flying a Taylorcraft with minimal day VFR instrumentation and no GPS. They don't excite me personally, but I can understand their appeal to new pilots who have sophisticated electronics in their pockets and cars.

              Have a good local shop who're willing to send an A&P to "Rotax School" if I'll be bringing them 100-hour and annual inspections. They also have considerable composite experience, as an authorized Cirrus shop.

              So I'm looking at Flight Design vs. Remos vs. Tecnam. Wife likes the idea of a BRS parachute, which is standard with Flight Design. Don't need the Remos folding wings, unless I could eventually fit two folded airplanes side by side in my existing T-hangar.

              Any experience or recommendations to offer? Wanna buy my BC12-D so I can put a down-payment on this new LSA?
              Joel Severinghaus
              Des Moines, Iowa
              TF# 657

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              • #22
                Re: Selling my 1946 BC12-D

                Add this criteria to your list:

                Don't buy an orphan. If the OEM is out of business you have zero support. You can't make your own parts for LSA unless they are experimental.
                Best Regards,
                Mark Julicher

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                • #23
                  Re: Selling my 1946 BC12-D

                  Joal, we have a Remos based here at Freeport. Mike (LS pilot) has flown her for about 3 years and loves her. Flight plans for a 100 mph and is always close to that. I can give you his email if you want. Larry
                  "I'm from the FAA and we're not happy, until your not happy."

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                  • #24
                    Re: Selling my 1946 BC12-D

                    Hi Joel,
                    Tom Peghini's Flight Design is located two miles from my home here in CT. The fit and finish is excellent. I got some stick time in one last year. With two hefty fellas on a 90 degree day we were climbing out at 900 FPM. Throttled back for cruise sipping 3 1/2 GPH and indicating 100 MPH. The flaps in the plus 3 degrees up position makes the little guy scoot. You can actually feel it accelerate slightly when you do that. In Europe they can be set higher to about six or eight degrees and the prop is repitched so the this thing really boogies. They had to slow it down to keep in the the LSA catagory here in the US from what I was told. I found the ship easy to get in and out of. It was comfortable and roomy when the doors were closed and the controls were responsive but not twitchy. My two cents.

                    Good Luck,

                    Glen Brodeur
                    TF #42
                    Putnam, CT

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                    • #25
                      Re: Selling my 1946 BC12-D

                      I've sat in a Flight Design CTSW, a CTLS, and a Remos GX, and been impressed with both brands. Flight Design cockpit width is 49" vs. 47" for Remos. CTLS useful load is 550 lbs. vs. 650 for the Remos, but that doesn't include the optional recovery parachute for the Remos.

                      I need to get some test flights with the nearby dealers...
                      Joel Severinghaus
                      Des Moines, Iowa
                      TF# 657

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                      • #26
                        Re: Selling my 1946 BC12-D

                        Pleased to see that EAA featured my Taylorcraft in a piece about the July 31 Oshkosh auction in yesterday's e-Hotline news email:

                        Official website of the EAA AirVenture Oshkosh fly-in convention in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, attracting more than 500,000 people and 10,000 airplanes each July.


                        But buy it from me before then, and save the 10% buyer's premium charge at the auction...
                        Joel Severinghaus
                        Des Moines, Iowa
                        TF# 657

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                        • #27
                          Re: Selling my 1946 BC12-D

                          I'm also listing my plane with Barnstormers.com and Trade-a-Plane.

                          Flyer, restoration list, and "extras" list attached.
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                          Joel Severinghaus
                          Des Moines, Iowa
                          TF# 657

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                          • #28
                            Re: Selling my 1946 BC12-D

                            Price reduced, with spousal approval, to $63,135.

                            (Email me if you want my wife's cell phone number so you can negotiate directly with her...)
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                            Joel Severinghaus
                            Des Moines, Iowa
                            TF# 657

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