Pre-war sub panel needed

[midniteflyer52]

Tribe,

Does anyone have an extra pre-war sub (instrument) panel that they can part with? This is the panel that mounts to the airframe. It goes under the overlay and holds the large tach, altimeter and airspeed indicator.

Thanks,

Glen Brodeur
Putnam, CT
860/963-7396
TF #42

[M Jones]

Re: Pre-war sub panel needed

Glen,

Yes, I have a spare. PM your shipping address to me.

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Pre-war sub panel needed

Glenn and Mike,
I have built a 41 support panel but had to reverse engineer the support structure for instruments. There was a lot of guess work involved and if one of you could take some pictures of what the support looked like you are trading, it would really help me figure out how close I got.
Glenn, does your 41 (I assume you are looking for the support for the 38) have the original panel? If so, did you take any pictures of the support structure?
Thanks
Hank

[M Jones]

Re: Pre-war sub panel needed

Hank,

I'll do that and post them, probably this weekend. This extra I have came to me when I bought an extra instrument panel from one of the members back in the "email exploder" days. I think he took it out of a '40 that he was turning into a clip wing (maybe a '41, not sure). I had a picture with some rough dimensions, but lost it when my last PC hard drive went south.

[M Jones]

Re: Pre-war sub panel needed

Here's a very rough image that I created by tracing the panel and adding some general dims for reference. It's .044" thick aluminum. I'll gladly send Hank and anyone else that wants one a copy in the mail if you send me an address.

[ken hecht]

Re: Pre-war sub panel needed

I also have a spare or two. pm me what you need? I even have a reproduct overlay panel in the box, ready to ship.
ken
T.F.375

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Pre-war sub panel needed

I actually have the 41 panel with the regular size instruments, not the single large tach with the combined instruments. The drawings you posted actually help since it gives me a basis for what I reverse engineered. Yours is sort of the father of mine. What I really need is how and where the shocks were used. I have used small rubber grommets between the mounting aluminum and the airframe. I used two sheets of aluminum and sandwiched the instruments between them, then mounted the assembly with the rubber grommets.
Photos of the correct 41 instrument mounting system would really help (as well as how the earlier instrument clusters were mounted.
The instruments are all out of the sandwich right now so I can get them all yellow tagged. This is the perfect time to remake or modify the mounting plate.
Hank

[M Jones]

Re: Pre-war sub panel needed

I don't have any pictures available for the mounting system Hank, sorry. Hopefully Glen or someone can help out there.

I'll get the sub panel out to you early next week Glen. It's a spare that I won't need (never say won't?), so I'm happy to give it to you if it helps to get another one of these old birds a step closer to flying again.

[midniteflyer52]

Re: Pre-war sub panel needed

Mike,

Thank you so much. I had one and lost it somehow when we moved my shop. This will be a big help.

Glen

[Ragwing nut]

Re: Pre-war sub panel needed

The mounts are rubber isolators with studs at each end. Cessna 120 uses something very similar. Should be a 4 welded tabs on the tubing to hold it in place. I usually for go the isolators and hard mount with bushings

[Marv]

Re: Pre-war sub panel needed

If you know a place that sells Coleman camper stove parts, you can buy these rubber mounts for a lot less than for Cessna. A freind discovered this back in 1974. The parts had the same part numbers in the the rubbers from the factory. Marv

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Pre-war sub panel needed

Anybody got a picture or part number (for the Coleman) of the isolator? I made my own from rubber grommets using a bolt through the tube tabs and mount plate. My system works well and I am really curious how close I got to what Taylor built. From the outside my home made panel and instrument system looks just like the photos but I have never seen what was under the instrument panel cover. When I bought the plane it had a slab of wood and sheet metal for a panel. Worked well but looked awful.
Hank

[Ragwing nut]

Re: Pre-war sub panel needed

you have to love mc-master carr, page 1363

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Pre-war sub panel needed

What I used looked more like the one on the bottom of page 1357. I put the isolator through the plate that the instruments were mounted to and ran a single bolt through the grommet and plate and attached it to the tabs on the tube. Got to take a look at the fully isolated stand-offs.
Hank