WTB: TCraft F19 / equivalent

[derrickzuk]

I'm shopping around for a cheap timebuilder, but needing something that can perform in 5000-7000ft elevations in WY. Have considered 85-100hp Tcraft/Champ/etc, also considering PA20 or 22. Trying to keep in the $20k range, and prefer something already in flying condition. Let me know if anyone here has something they're looking to sell. Also interested in hearing any experience concerning 85/100hp Tcrafts in Wyoming-like altitudes. Thanks!

[Jim Herpst]

Having no experience in Wyoming however a ton of experience with high density altitudes (living in SC) you will be plenty good with an 85 HP Taylorcraft . Example: having once owned a 828 os so pound empty weight Taylorcraft and operating with A a65, wood prop and full fuel (including Both Wings Tanks) luggage on the built up hat rack and in the sling benith it with me and my dad(he was light ) still.. departing St Augustin on their short westerly as I recall runway one morning after SunNFun it was interesting however uneventful in clearing the trees (read I probably would be more careful in my older age) . A 85 or 0200 in a Taylorcraft is wonderful. Those big ol wings will get you out of a lot of places and are your friend (no matter the ride aloft at times!)

[astjp2]

Having flown out of rock springs, afton, etc., 85 hp is not enough in summer, look for something with an O-200. I know a good candidate if you find an o-200 we could do the swap. Tim

[Jim Herpst]

Having flown out of rock springs, afton, etc., 85 hp is not enough in summer, look for something with an O-200. I know a good candidate if you find an o-200 we could do the swap. Tim

I recalled looking at the power band the 0200 vs the85 that the 0200 does not develope much if any more power on takeoff tan an 85 but could be wrong as it has been a while. Your comment make me want to look into that a lot more closely considering future engines.. I do also recall there were a lot of devoted F19 pilots at one time. Just don't hear that much from them any more...

[astjp2]

flat long prop will get an o-200 into the power band, the problem is that density altitude can get 11,000+ on a summer day and the 85 will run out of umph at those altitudes.

I can run a common MCCauley 7443 to 7538 if you get a seaplane prop and you cannot run either of those on the 85. Gary has a M76AK that was approved for the 85 but they are rare as hens teeth or super expensive.

[Miguel]

A C85 strocker might be a better choice than an O-200

[astjp2]

A C85 strocker might be a better choice than an O-200

How Miguel? You are still limited on a short propeller because its still an 85. The biggest prop we can run with a continental is 75" which is as close to a borer prop that we can put on a continental a 150Hp lycoming can take a 84", that is a lot of propeller disc area to add.

[Robert Lees]

I've flown into and out of both Rock Springs and Rawlins Wyoming in a 65-hp Taylorcraft.

Admittedly: it was sole occupancy but with full fuel (3 tanks) and in a September where the Density Altitude (DA) on that day was only 9500 feet; I would not like to do the same in a hot summer, and certainly not with a passenger! In fact I'd find a pool!

Given a choice, I would prefer a Taylorcraft with a C-90 for the torque, and a Marvel carb for mixture control.





(Link to full story from 2015 here)

[derrickzuk]

Thanks for the responses guys. Definitely sounds like C-90 or O200 is the best bet if I go Tcraft. Think they would outperform a 160hp PA22 for stol at these altitudes? Thinking the short wing might mean yes, although there are benefits to the short wing in windy Wyoming.

[astjp2]

I would go with a 150 tri/pacer so you can run mogas...and dont get beat to crap because its always bumpy...135hp would be OK with only 2 people in a pacer/tripacer, just take out the back seat and limit your baggage. Tim

[N96337]

Stroker 85 will do plenty. You're just not going to want to try heavy in the middle of a hot day.
John

[derrickzuk]

Any thoughts on this clipped wing 100hp? https://johnbellaircraft.com/jba-air...wing-for-sale/

[woodmw]

I see that Ralph Kew is still trying to sell his Tcraft on Barnstormers:

https://www.barnstormers.com/classified-1495403-LSA46Taylorcraft-C-85-0-200.html

His post on the forum:

https://vb.taylorcraft.org/forum/taylorcraft/buy-sell-aircraft-parts-services-shops/12111-n39991-is-for-sale-c85-12f-0-200