12 Gauge magnum test

[flyguy]

We were discussing the pros and cons and comparison of pistol vs shootgun here a while back and I said I would try some new shells that I got for my home defense gun when I got the chance. Been kinda busy with struts for a while so: Better late than never.

This is one shot from 15 to 20 feet. It is a large coffee can. The shot was from the hip and you ought to see the color of my second finger now. The can was blown about 35 or 40 feet by the impact. My friend, who is an experienced shooter just said J**** C****T! When I shot it.
Magnum 12 gauge, #4 steel shot. The hole out the back is about 4 inches in diameter.
DC

[crispy critter]

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Now that's what I call a "wammy" shell !

[Ron Coleman]

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I thought that I would post a pic of my anti-scrapmetal thief persuader. It shoots a 16 lb. bowlingball. Velocity 340' per second. Range with 1/3 rd cup FG black powder is 2400'. At 62 degrees altitude is 1600'.
I need to mount it on a lazy suzan for ease of aiming, and electronic ignition for precise firing. I am going to test a bucket of colored chalk. I have already fired a gallon of paint.
I'll be allright when the bird is back in the air.

Fire-in-the-hole!!!!!!!!!!!
RonC
N96995

[Ron Coleman]

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2nd try Persuader 1


RonC

[Ron Coleman]

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3rd try. It had better work this time!

RonC

[Howard Wilson]

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Cool! Old gas cylinder?

[flylo]

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I want the Indian in the background!

[tcraft]

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man I need that!

[mike lutz]

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HI Ron.Mike Lutz south of you at Findlay.I,d be interested in a stc to put a pair of them on the wings of my t-craft.

[Ron Coleman]

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STC for the persuader 1. Find oxygen tank 8 1/2" ID. Cut off bottom. Screw trailer hitch ball in place of valve body. Drill hole for cannon fuse. Get instructions for firing this thing. This is a DANGEROUS tool. My tank was too small so I have to turn my balls down 1/2" on a wood lathe, a time consuming and painful experience. Besides being covered with layers of blueball dust. After loading and priming attach the cannon (s) under the wing with industrial quality velcro, bring the fuses through the windows where it can be ignited with a cigar. Prevent the fuse from igniting the fabric.
If you fire it from the ground, aim it almost straight up so that it will land nearby. The first time I shot it, it rose with great beauty, I could see it float majestically to great heights (those nearby watching, commented "HOLY SH*T") only to falll with ever increasing speed a half a mile away. Loft time was 20 seconds, long enough to run to the car and drive away. It took a transit, a compass, a GPS, and two weeks to find the ball. Don't try this in town.

Hi Mike! I flew into your place a couple times last fall to talk to you about the strut problem. Didn't find you at home. Glad to hear from you. I hope to have the plane in the air next week. I'll try to get down after that.

Don't use modern bowling balls, they are weighted off center. Try to scrounge old rubber balls. If you shoot your newer off center balls they will develope "english" in the air and will hook off somewhere.

I have black balls, red balls, and blue balls.
RonC
N96995

[flyguy]

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Ron, Just a wild idea. How about making a sabot round. You know, a holder of something light, shaped like an opened, thick-walled tin can that holds a smaller ball in the middle. Higher velocity? We at one time shot pottery (mud) balls. It was in a super sling shot, not a cannon though. Bet if you fired them (before you fired them) it would work. A full-sized one would likely be too heavy, don't know.
DC

[Ron Coleman]

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DC
One of my favorite games when I lived at the edge of town, was to shoot old mops at the neighborhood kids' kites. It is really surreal to see a mop handle head and all blow through a kite a couple hundred feet in the air. Powdered tempera paint is also spectacular when the cardboard can opens up and you have a colored cloud over the neighorhood.
Your idea of a sabot is a pretty good idea as long as the load is light. If the load is heavy the can blows around and past the load. Like put a plastic bottle in a can. Fill the plastic bottle with nasty stuff that explodes (no fire) and blow it out of the cannon. (Draino bomb).

I think that I am going to take a video camera up to about 1200' in the ultra-lite and photo the ball as it comes up and over. You can't believe how graceful and majestic the flight of the ball appears. I think that if I have the kids fire North and I fly West to East just South of the cannon I should be able to get a spectacular view of the trajectory.

RonC

[crispy critter]

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DC
One of my favorite games when I lived at the edge of town, was to shoot old mops at the neighborhood kids' kites. It is really surreal to see a mop handle head and all blow through a kite a couple hundred feet in the air. Powdered tempera paint is also spectacular when the cardboard can opens up and you have a colored cloud over the neighorhood.
Your idea of a sabot is a pretty good idea as long as the load is light. If the load is heavy the can blows around and past the load. Like put a plastic bottle in a can. Fill the plastic bottle with nasty stuff that explodes (no fire) and blow it out of the cannon. (Draino bomb).

I think that I am going to take a video camera up to about 1200' in the ultra-lite and photo the ball as it comes up and over. You can't believe how graceful and majestic the flight of the ball appears. I think that if I have the kids fire North and I fly West to East just South of the cannon I should be able to get a spectacular view of the trajectory.

RonC

Ron,
You may also become the kite that you were talking about.LMAO....I thought we were nuts down here,I need to come see you guys so I can get some new ideas. Where are you at in ohio?

[Hank Jarrett]

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I'm still trying to get past the time consuming and painful experience of turning your balls down 1/2" on a wood lathe!!!

I'll BET IT WAS! But why would you need to just to fire a cannon?

OH! The CANNON ball.

Hank

[Ron Coleman]

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Well the ball was a little too large to stuff down the barrel. I turned the ball down a little, put a load of powder down the cannon and then tried to drop the ball in, but it got stuck and I had to pound it down with a tar treated 4X4 ( the only thing I had in hand). It was spooky driving the ball down a loaded cannon, so I had to turn the ball down a little more. Besides the sound of the ball grating along the side of the rusty steel tube when it blew out of the bore was like finger nails on a blackboard.

One of the local Harley riders (some of them ain"t too swift) suggested that I take a butterfly net up with me and try to catch the ball in flight. I was not pratical because when I pushed the net out of the cockpit window the Sparrow went into a left hand turn from which I could not recover until I dumped the net. Lucky I got the net back from the tree in which it landed, but the Harley rider who went up after it had an altercation with a racoon that had a nest full of young. His bloody hands were so slippery that he fell out of the tree onto his Harley which broke his fall.

Like I said, I'll be better as soon as the T-Craft is back in the air.

RonC