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    My letter to A&E about Phil Robertson

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Terry Bowden ([email protected])
    To: aefeedback
    Sent: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 11:09 am

    Subject: Your position on Phil Robertson "The Duck Commander"

    To whom it may concern (at A&E),

    Your decision to fire Phil Robertson, if it stands, will go down as the worst in your network history. I ask that you re-consider the whole misunderstanding and re-instate Mr. Robertson to the show Duck Dynasty. I am not related to or connected with the Robertson family in any way, except that I share their spiritual and moral values. I am a Christian. By the way… that term “Christian” happens to be a LOVE GROUP, not a hate group. I urge you to go back and re-read the GQ article in its entirety and then show me where exactly there is any hint of hate toward gay people in Phil’s words. Be honest with yourselves and for a moment, just stop pandering to the biased influence of those who push the gay agenda. Read those words from Mr. Robertson. He is simply stating his views on sinners. They are harsh, yes. But the words are not his words, they are straight from the Holy Bible.

    I assume you know the Bible story. I would bet that some of you folks who are in high positions with the A&E family of networks probably have a copy of the Holy Bible on your own shelf or coffee table at home. Do you believe it to be the inspired word of God? Do you believe it to be true?

    If so, I am sure you would agree that the words in I Corinthians, as referenced accurately by Mr. Robertson, are words of judgment written by the apostle Paul. If you study the context of that scripture, you know that Paul was speaking to an audience of lost sinners in Corinth. Right? He was giving them straight talk so they would understand that their lifestyles, their chosen actions, were separating them from God and from the eventual salvation God offers. It is plain and clear. He listed not only the homosexuals, but also those who practice other sinful lifestyles. Basically he is talking about the benefits of having high moral standards. If you believe the words of the Holy Bible, I am sure you recognize that God is a just God. In Romans, it is said that God will save whomever he chooses to save, but to the others there will be wrath! But he is also a God of GRACE because he wants all of his created people to be saved and to choose His ways. He loves the world, you know that. And so does Phil Robertson. There is no hate in this dialog.

    If not, please consider taking some time out of your busy life and read what the Bible says. It is a rather long read, so It might be helpful to seek some Bible study groups in your area to help you zoom in on the meaning of it all. You will find that it contains the story of humanity and all creation. God is the one who put us here on earth for His purposes. He is the one who will ultimately determine our eternal destiny. I urge you to take a read of this book and realize that I am asking you to do so out of love. Just like Phil Robertson, I would not wish for anyone to miss out on the Glorious plan God has for our lives in eternity. I want to go there. I would love to someday meet you in Heaven and share in the peace and wonder of it all. It is a place where only Love exists. No hate. Phil Robertson was once a sinner. I was once a sinner. We are all sinners. God did not initially make us that way, but Satan introduced sin to humanity. And because of it, all of mankind is subject to it. Sin separates people from God. BUT, Jesus Christ came to give us a way out of sin and into the everlasting life with God. I hope you’ll re-consider and see that Phil Robertson is a SAVED sinner who is only trying to help other sinners see the way to find salvation. It is LOVE, not hate speak.

    OK, so one final question. What does A&E stand to lose if they stand firm on the decision to axe Mr. Robertson?

    I am not a television programming expert or much of a business wizard. But to me it looks like A&E is about to lose the largest television audience EVER known to any TV show in the history of television broadcasting. Do you really think that pleasing the GBLT (not sure if I got all the letters right) sector of the entertainment industry is worth it? If you count their numbers, they are few in relation to others in your viewership. Would the censorship of Phll Robertson gain anything over the millions of dollars you stand to earn from the continuation of this wholesome TV show? You cannot deny that it is primarily watched by people with generally high moral values? If you count us, there are many.

    I hope you’ll re-instate Phil Robertson to the TV show. But if you don’t, you have lost me as a viewer of your shows.

    Terry L. Bowden
    Romans 14:19
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  • #2
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    Amen!
    Kevin Mays
    West Liberty,Ky

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    • #3
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      Great letter! +1 with Terry.

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      • #4
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        I agree.Great letter.I,m on your side Terry.

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        • #5
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          As a transgendered female pilot and plane owner, I don't necessarily agree with all that Mr. Robertson says. What I don't like is the backlash trying to sensor his free speech. This is a nation based on the Constitution that allows us free speech and when we lose that to a minority, we are heading down the wrong path. I know my GLBT friends would not agree with me, but we can't force an agenda on everyone. I know I am not accepted by all people but I have made my way in life by showing a love attitude and acceptance of all.

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          • #6
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            Well spoken Terry! The secular world just don't get it.

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            • #7
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              Well put carrieve from the other side of things.....what I dont understand and maybe you have some insight.....why is it that every channel, every news station, and everyone who wants can preach,rant, and rave about their feelings on the matter of race, religion, gay rights, etc. and it goes completely public and very few people will ever protest them, but one guy makes one statement in one magizine interview about his persnal beliefs that are what most of our population will still consider to be "traditional values" and all of the sudden he is considered racist, prejudice, etc by nearly everyone in the media and many other groups,etc.
              Why is it that supporters of gay rights can voice their opinion everywhere and put down anyone who disagrees without being hung out to dry for it, but anyone who tries to voice their opinion for more traditional values and why they feel that being gay is wrong will get slaughtered by the media and many other groups for voicing their own opinion?
              Personally I agree with terry and Phil on the matter. However with that said, this is a free country where one should have the right to choose their own lifestyle,religion, etc.... However I just feel that some things should be kept traditional, at least in public view. However if I were to say that on national tv I would have to go make a national apoligy and go into hiding for a while just to be left alone. Maybe that last comment is a little exaggerated but i hope you respecfully understand what I mean.
              Kevin Mays
              West Liberty,Ky

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              • #8
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                OK Kevin, you are OUT OF HERE! We don't need any of that......

                Yea, I get what you mean. Lucky for us that this seems to be a VERY open group where any of us can say what we believe and almost no one gets bent out of shape. Is there something in Taylorcrafts that makes people understand that freedom of speech means the freedom to say what you believe, no mater what you believe? Maybe it is some fume from the headliner.

                If someone here says something I find offensive, I go to the next message and usually don't remember who says it five minutes later (that is something I consciously do, read it first and if I don't like it, DON'T read who said it! I LIKE all the people here (and don't want to be upset with someone just because they say one thing that I don't agree with.)

                It must be something universal here because you guys still let ME hang around! It is the same with religion. I want EVERYONE to have equal access. Pick your religion and I would be glad to respect it, and even join in on your celebrations. I don't have to believe what you do to respect your beliefs. The only religions I don't respect are those who tell me I can't have mine, and that is usually INDIVIDUALS, not the religion as a whole (usually). For those GROUPS who try to tell me I CAN NOT have my beliefs, well, I was on the Navy rifle and pistol team, and I don't need a high power weapon to "make my point". Live and let live, till someone tells me I can't live.

                Check out the Constitution. It protects our rights, it doesn't limit them. It limits the GOVERNMENTS rights. Now if we could just get the politicians to read it.

                As for GLBT (did I get that right?), none of them is telling me I have to be like them, and I don't tell them to be like me. Don't tell my church they HAVE to perform a marriage, or bake a cake (WHAT THE HECK IS THAT ALL ABOUT!) or sanction your actions, and I won't push to regulate you. We all need to buy own contraceptives! Never understood why someones reproductive system is none of my business but ALL of my monetary responsibility! Don't try and tell my church to pay for your reproductive protection when it violates my beliefs! Are those people going to pay for my new AR-15 and a box of ammo? I want to stay out of others personal business, and I want them to stay out of mine. We need to share what we agree on and just leave the rest alone.

                I have NO INTENTION of getting into someones business, can't make the promise for my "representatives", they are idiots.

                Let EVERYONE express their views, and if you don't like it, don't read it. Freedom of speech does not imply a requirement to listen. This just isn't that hard to figure out.

                Hank

                By the way, I do have several "trans gender" (I think that is the correct term) and homosexual friends and they & I don't have a problem with it. We never talk about it, and I am not really into dating after over 40 years of marriage so there is no reason to.

                AND BRING BACK THE DUCK CALL PROGRAM! I don't watch it now, but will when a network with BRAINS picks them up. CRUD! If it offends someone, DON'T WATCH IT! If it offends me, I will quit watching it, not tell you YOU can't!

                Rant over.

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                • #9
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                  Thank you Hank. You said it perfectly. I come here because of my love for mine and everyone else's Taylorcraft. Leave politics at the doorstep. Merry Christmas everyone.

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                  • #10
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                    Carrieve,
                    I seriously meant no offense by what I said, I truely meant it as a question from someone who sees it from your prospective. Maybe I ranted a little in the process but I promise that it wasn't directed at you at all. It was meant as an honest question and not an attack or rant toward you. I'm sorry if you took it that way.

                    Hank, I too have gay friends. They are great people and I have no problem with them at all. We have discussed it openly together and repect each others choice even if we don't agree.
                    One of the things I respect most about them is that even thou they make no secret of there sexuality, they also do not display it publicly for all to see and they never try to push it on anyone or force others to accept it. and they do not judge or try to change anyone who believes in more tradional values. They are perfectly happy and great people, they work hard and have always been very good friends and for that I respect and value their friendships, but that doesnt mean I like or support their beliefs. They know how I feel and I know how they feel and we always respect each others values and comments. And one of the things i tried to say in my previous message is why can't those who do believe and support gay rights also respect those who do not without making a big deal of it. That was what I really meant to say in my earlier post and I guess I got a little carried away.
                    Now before hank or anyone else tries to throw me out of the forum for this I just want to say that not all supporters of guy rights, such as my above mentioned friends, are the type to force it upon others. But a fine example, Hank, is your first comment to my reply, and it even appears that we share similar beliefs. Another fine example is exactly what started this thread started with, Phil Robertson.
                    I completely respect everyone's rights to feel and believe what they choose, but those should also respect mine as well. I do not hide my feelings or beliefs to my gay friends and they do not hide there's. Why should i walk on eggshells around folks like my gay friends or carrieve in an attempt not to offend them while hiding my own beliefs and feelings to do so.

                    Once again, I did not mean any offense to carrieve or anyone else, I simply tried to ask a question and I admit that I got a little carried away, probably doing the same thing again right now.
                    Hank, I respect you completely and have always thought of you as a friend, but I will always speak my mind when i feel like it and expect no less from anyone else. If you or anyone else want me "OUT OF HERE" then I'll gladly be gone, because I absolutely do not want to be anywhere that I'm not wanted! Just keep in mind that you want to black ball me for exercising the very freedom this thread was started over!

                    Carrieve, I do not care that you are transgender(really not 100% what that even means) or what beliefs you have. I just think its awesome that someone your age has a love for and flies a taylorcraft, or any other taildraggers and or classic airplanes. I have a couple of daughters learning to fly in a cub, taylorcraft, and a Cessna 170. I hope you can meet them someday. Merry Christmas to too Carrie.
                    Last edited by crispy critter; 12-21-2013, 10:22.
                    Kevin Mays
                    West Liberty,Ky

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                    • #11
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                      Terry I think you presented yourself very well and your understanding of scripture to make your point is excellent. People of conscience will understand, Those who have agendas they are so tightly bond to will never let go, making the point for them is our job as Christians, God wants a better life for those who will take it and it is obvious for those of us who believe.

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                      • #12
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                        Kevin,
                        I am sorry, I think you misunderstood the first part of my post. We are EXACTLY on the same page. I should have added a ;-) The first line was supposed to be talking like A&E.

                        The first line was intended to be an example of exactly the kind of intolerance we DO NOT see here, and that is just like it should be. We need tolerance and acceptance of ALL who come here, except those who are intolerant or would try and force their views on the rest of us. That is what upset me about how Robertson was treated. Debbie watches the show sometimes, but I don't think I have ever seen a complete episode. In this case, I am intolerant towards A&Es intolerance and expect to hear an apology for their socially (and constitutionally) unacceptable behavior.

                        It is really sad that a couple of percent of the population can cause SO MUCH trouble for the 98%. Each of our rights are wide open, we can do anything we want, up to the point where those "rights" infringe on others (not that I am advising violation of the laws, but if those laws infringe on rights, I will fight them even if they don't affect me).

                        As for Carrie, I didn't know, and it isn't relevant. You are you, and you are my friend, just like the rest of the Tribe. Everyone have a Merry Christmas and a great new year. And now I AM going to get in everyone's business. BE SAFE! I can't handle anyone else being lost to a stupid accident.

                        Hank

                        Course we may need to think about those Aeronca Chief guys who show up here every once in a while. You know you just can't trust a Chief driver. ;-)

                        See, I remembered the ;-) this time (one of my good friends, and the manager at SFQ drives a Chief and we poke fun at each other all the time. I will be catching it when he sees me changing my bungees! (Chiefs don't use bungees)

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                        • #13
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                          Lmao Hank, I truely thought your were mad at me for my comment and i guess i might have used it to release a little bit of holiday stress, I'm very sorry my friend.

                          Honestly after re-reading my first post I do feel a little bad about it. Not about what I said, but about how I went about saying it. It does appear that I ranted a little bit on Carrie and it was not my intention, for that I'm am truely sorry to everyone, especially to Carrie.

                          I'm not sure if I had too much eggnog or not enough when i wrote it,lol. Heck with the eggnog, I think it's time for a couple sips of good ol east Kentucky lightning and a couple of cold beers, anyone care to join me?

                          Ontop of the holiday stress I'm also scratching my head on a crazy problem with my J3 cub yep, sorry, I said the C word,lol. It's been an ongoing discussion on the cub forum. I'll try to post a link in another thread if y'all want to read thru it.

                          Merry christmas everyone.
                          Last edited by crispy critter; 12-21-2013, 14:13.
                          Kevin Mays
                          West Liberty,Ky

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                          • #14
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                            Actually I really like looking at the Cub forum once in a while. I DO envy them their view out both sides and that BIG door! (I am gonna get kicked out of here yet).

                            One think I do NOT like about the web is how easy it is for something written to be taken wrong that would probably NEVER happen if we were all face to face. Of course it is also nice to go back before you hit "send" and catch something that REALLY does NOT say what you wanted it to.

                            Hank

                            I got it! I'm talking about the TAYLOR Cub! Yea, THAT'S the ticket!

                            By the way, by all means post the link. We are ALL closet airplane nuts. I even like, GASP! Funks and Pietenpols and WW-I replicas! OH MY!

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                            • #15
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                              Hank,
                              My cub is actually a 1940 model so it's fair to say that it's an updated Taylor cub....right? I'll try to post the link if I can figure out how.
                              Kevin Mays
                              West Liberty,Ky

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