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[Forrest Barber]

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Open cowl BLT for trainer ; closed was BL ... 12 was for gross wt 1200 I have all the ser"s you know.... brrrrrr! I AM going flying today, my log book is caught up! Events are listed on www.barberaircraft.com more coming soon!

[wmfife]

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My BL12-65 still has its Lycoming. Getting parts now is a challenge but I love the engine design concept especially the unique firing order (and the flanged crank; no tapered shafts with pirate hubs that can fail). The cast-iron case and cylinder barrels are virtually bulletproof if cared for at all while still weighing in at 5-10 lbs. lighter than the A-65.
Most have been replaced by Continentals making this one even more rare. But with proper maintenance and a good prop it still performs well on cooler days. AND I can has shielded ignition on all eight plugs withOUT cutting into the cowl...

[rammon3]

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"Getting parts now is a challenge "
I have an 0-145 for parts (no logs) if you're interested. I have no idea what it's worth, but I have no use for it.

[wmfife]

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Hi, Roscoe,

Might not be a bad idea to have a spare. I've seen them go for less than the price of boat parts on eBay but maybe that's all those were good for. If yours is still in near-airworthy or restorable to airworthy condition I could be interested. Big problem would be getting it here. Mine is down for l.g., exhaust and fuel system rebuild among other minor things.

What about a heatbox /air cleaner? Has it got one on it now? Saw one for sale recently that had what looked like an A-65 one on it but can't find out any more. I need to add some kind to keep the TBO within reason as it has none at present.

Despite being low-time mine has had three of the orig. cylinder heads replaced with (enlarged) newly rebuilt zero-timed ones but has been sitting idle for some extended time. I am concerned about the copper crank and thrust bearings among others so spares would perhaps be good to have if they are in good shape. Otherwise this little cast iron brute seems to be doing ok. Last time up with just me and a new prop she was climbing like a Cub. Much better than the times before.

[rammon3]

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Bill,
What have is really a "Pandora's box". I have no logs, accessories, or any history on this engine. I found it in the barn with my project plane and the owner just wanted to get rid of it. Hank Jarrett has already expressed interest and we have been discussing possible parts trade. Right now he has first dibs.

[wmfife]

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Hank Jarrett has already expressed interest

No kidding. Well, maybe I oversold the design a little. Not to forget there are up and down sides to this engine. But I do believe preserving technology is an important part of our legacy. I wish him luck and maybe we can exchange ideas on keeping these unique engines up and running.

Personally I just love 'em. They don't make them like they used to and a good idea should never be allowed to die.

If you're going to own an airplane it may as well be one that fulfills your dreams of what one should be. For me, this one does. <3

[Hank Jarrett]

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Bill,
I am hoping to be able to bring it back to life over time. Josh had wanted to return his plane to as original as possible and I thought the original engine type would be good too. If it doesn't work out I will put my spare Continental in and do a cosmetic restoration on the Lycoming while I continue to gather parts to get it running.
I have a feeling the process of bringing any really old engine back could be a long one. I really don't want to see it become a boat anchor, even if that means it ends up on a museum display plane until the last parts are found.
Hank

[wmfife]

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Hank,

Have you dealt any with these folks? I was told they hold the only official TC on the O-145 but the last time I spoke with J.P. was a few years ago.

http://go.hubbiz.com/Hackenburg-J-P-Sons-Aviation

I was able to obtain three oversized cylinder heads after the exhaust sleeves burned up on the originals (a problem easily fixed with some hand tools and a good welder... can send the drwgs. for the SS IA-approved oversize clamps I had made)...

These heads came with the correct *paired* aluminum gaskets as well as the "CA seal" (listed on the shop order form... had to look up what "CA" stood for): Copper-Asbestos ring. It's a hollow ring that seals the top of the cyl barrel when the head is on & torqued. The outer part is copper and the packed liner is asbestos. All arrived in pristine condition carefully wrapped & looking very professional. I recommend these folks.

He even sold me the hardened mag gears after he learned I had put on a metal prop. The original kind if left on he warned could one day result in Silence in Flight. But I like the sound of mine. So sure didn't want that.

[Hank Jarrett]

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So far I have almost nothing on the 0-145 except that the paperwork shows it was the engine the T was built with and there is NO paperwork showing that it was ever replaced (even though the SN for the Continental is in the logs as far back as they go). Based on the logs, Merlin the Magician touched his wand and the Lycoming became a Continental, which seems to be the same for a LOT of Ts out there!
They were a lot easier on folks changing engines "in the day". I guess if it was an optional engine for the plane, they just swapped them out.
Hank

[Bird]

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If things go the way I am aiming I will have 2 lycoming 145-2bs for sale, 1 complete with logs and another that was being rebuilt no logs (case and pistons assembled but with heads in parts box, but not complete), both with data plates, another oil pan with data plate and a seperate data plate. when it goes I hope all at once instead of piecemeal.

[Forrest Barber]

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I do have a photo of the Lyc powered Tcraft that was used in the photo now I ahve to find it and check ser# ..... I may use this to start a thread on Lyc powered; I love the engine,It can run wide open all day long and is the one I used to win the closed course race here back in the 70's at a fly-in..... Tom Young had a great open cowl of course I have the 180 horse Lyc powered BC12D that I fly at the Fly-In ; this is the clipped leisa marie owned by Mark Ohlinger..... Burro

[Jim Herpst]

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So far I have almost nothing on the 0-145 except that the paperwork shows it was the engine the T was built with and there is NO paperwork showing that it was ever replaced (even though the SN for the Continental is in the logs as far back as they go). Based on the logs, Merlin the Magician touched his wand and the Lycoming became a Continental, which seems to be the same for a LOT of Ts out there!
They were a lot easier on folks changing engines "in the day". I guess if it was an optional engine for the plane, they just swapped them out.
Hank

So what you have is a plane needing to get the paper work corrected. Correct. This has been tossed around before. A BL was built under a different type certificate. You cant just bolt on a Continental without an approval. Back in the Day a field approval was easyenough or a DAMI signoff. Not so sure about today however.....