Painting T-craft project

[Leenicklas]

Can anyone out there comment on the suitability of using a Krause & Becker 5/8 hp Airless Paint Sprayer Kit for spraying my t-craft project. Harbor Freight has great 4th of July Sale.

[Hank Jarrett]

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I used a Harbor Freight HVLP to paint my plane and it worked great. It wasn't the Krause & Becker (much older than that one) but the only thing you need to watch is the viscosity of the paint and make sure you have the right tip.
Best thing was the NO OVERSPRAY it produced (or doesn't produce). After the first wing I didn't even move my car from next to the hangar doors. I did park it on the up wind side, but there was NO OVERSPRAY in the hangar. The fumes were also MUCH lower than from a regular small jam gun. Your paint will go a LOT further too. I have LOTS of left over Taylorcraft Ivory dope.
Hank

[Pearson]

Re: Painting T-craft project

Can anyone out there comment on the suitability of using a Krause & Becker 5/8 hp Airless Paint Sprayer Kit for spraying my t-craft project. Harbor Freight has great 4th of July Sale.

You CAN use an airless sprayer to shoot urethane or enamel, but in general they are more suited for thicker paints like you use on your house. The problem is they usually put out too much volume. If you can find one with a 3mm or smaller tip, it might work. But I would be very surprised if a Harbor Freight rig would have the power to pump the type of paint you would be using through a 3mm tip. More than likely, it would come with a 7 or 8mm tip, which is perfect for painting your house but not your airplane.

I have seen airless rigs advertised for use with PolyFiber paints. I forget the price, but they are turbine powered HVLP sprayers. If you go to polyfiber.com and look on the left side, there is a link to spray equipment. You can use a regular HVLP spray gun with a small air compressor too.

If you elect to use the inexpensive airless rig from Harbor Freight, I would certainly practice on something disposable before using on your plane.

[Hank Jarrett]

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The one I used was NOT an airless. It was an HVLP with a built in turbine. Sounded like a vacuum cleaner when you used it and worked great with Dope. You DID have to be totally anal about cleaning it. If you left any dope at all to dry in it it would jam up and quit.
There is one on eBay at

http://www.ebay.com/ctm/ELECTRIC-PAINTER-EASY-PAINT-HVLP-SPRAY-GUN-450-WATTS-BRAND-NEW-

Looks just like mine except mine is red.
Hank

[Leenicklas]

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Hank, Richard...thank you very much for info. I appreciate your knowledge and your willingness to share it. Lee Nicklas

[Leenicklas]

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Obviously, once the a/c is painted, I need to put it together. Is there a source for a "kit" for most of the AN hardware for the BC12-D or is it a one by one process. I want to replace all the bolts, screws, pins, etc, etc, . thanks, Lee

[jdoran]

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I use a turbine powered HVLP spray rig. The brushes in the turbine motor gave out a month or so ago right in the middle of a spray job. I hooked it up the the exhaust on my Black and Decker shop vac and finished the spray job!!

[TimHicks]

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Lee,
I don't know if it is of any use to you or not.
But, as I take apart my airplane in the re-covering process, I am compiling a list of every piece of hardware that I take off of the airplane.

I have a spreadsheet with every fastener that I have touched. It is incomplete because I haven't finished taking the fuse apart yet. But I'm in the middle of that right now.
And I cannot know if what is on my '46 BC-12D airplane is what you will need for your airplane. But I'm willing to make the spreadsheet available to you or to anyone who thinks that it might be useful.
Tim

[Hank Jarrett]

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I think it would be VERY useful. I would use it with an extra column for the size fastener I found in my planes as I work them. I think if you compared planes you would find a variance in lengths from plane to plane since I often find one dash number difference from left to right on mine. With a good list and updates from other planes we would at least know where the variance was and be able to order extra bolts where everyone wasn't the same.
Hank

[cvavon]

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Tim what you are doing is some thing that is of a grate value to the tribe will make the assembly process much easier for everyone thanks Chuck

[Leenicklas]

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That would be very helpful. Can you send it as an attachment to an Email? my email is [email protected] Thanks for your help.

[TimHicks]

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Lee,
Yes it's easy for me to send it as an attachment to an email.
I'll send it to you in the next couple of days.
For the Forum, I'll start a new thread and try to attach my spreadsheet.
A couple of Caveats.
I'm not an A&P. I may identify things by unconventional names. I started this as just a shopping list for myself, not as a reference for all.
The list is incomplete as I'm the process of compiling it. But I assume that I'll post later updates as I get further along in the process.
My airplane is a 46 BC-12D but it has pre-war 13-rib (built-up) wings and pre-war horizontal stab/elevator.
In some cases, there was ambiguity, So I might have entered two slightly different fasteners to do the same job.

[Richh2only]

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I found a good readable set of drawings at Essco Aircraft they call them "Taylorcraft BC-12D Schematics" and the cost is $15.00, these list all the proper AN numbers for the fasteners required for each assembly.

https://www.esscoaircraft.com/default.aspx

Or do a search on their web sight for Taylorcraft BC-12D.
Good Luck

[TimHicks]

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I sent my spreadsheet in its incomplete form to leenicklas.
I tried to start a new thread here on the Forum, but it doesn't allow me to attach spreadsheets.
So I don't plan to do anything further. Richard (Richh2only) has made us aware of a better resource.
If anyone does want to see my spreadsheet, just let me know by PM here or by email to [email protected]

[VAN]

Re: Painting T-craft project

Lee,
I don't know if it is of any use to you or not.
But, as I take apart my airplane in the re-covering process, I am compiling a list of every piece of hardware that I take off of the airplane.

I have a spreadsheet with every fastener that I have touched. It is incomplete because I haven't finished taking the fuse apart yet. But I'm in the middle of that right now.
And I cannot know if what is on my '46 BC-12D airplane is what you will need for your airplane. But I'm willing to make the spreadsheet available to you or to anyone who thinks that it might be useful.
Tim

Tim I just got a basket case that was disisembled when i got it would love the spreadsheet mine is a 46 bc12d.