Harer (Barber) STC update

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: Harer (Barber) STC update

She is supposed to be a nice lady who lost her husband. I would vote for a gentle approach (which I think Forrest is going for). Maybe the fire and brimstone should be held for the son and his friend at the QuickMart.
Hank

[Larry Lyons]

Re: Harer (Barber) STC update

I volunteer to proof read that sucker! :boxing:

[VictorBravo]

Re: Harer (Barber) STC update

At that point , she said her son ; a night manger at Wal-Mart had a friend that "flew airplanes" and they wanted to keep it themselves.

Forrest, perhaps Mrs. Harer should get a letter from the Foundation outlining clearly and in full detail all the liabilities, technical complexities, federal reporting requirements, and paperwork problems related to STC ownership. The letter should explain that the holder of the STC is the one to whom the FAA will refer any and all lawyers calling about lawsuits and billion dollar wrongful earache verdicts. Also the STC holder is the one to whom the Foundation will refer any technical inquiries, and will refer people demanding to know how "tab A fits into slot B", etc. at all hours of the night.

The letter should remind Mrs. Harer that the liability chain, regulatory chain, and flight safety responsibility chain all run right through the living room (and bank account) of the STC holder... and that the Taylorcraft Foundation wants to actually give her money to take all that responsibility.

The only question is... where are you going to find the kind of brimstone-spewing, fear-inspiring SOB writer who could create such a horrific letter?

[Forrest Barber]

Re: Harer (Barber) STC update

No mystery ; Bob Harer and I had the agreement that the Foundation would pay him $1500.00 plus 50% of the net to him or his widow for 5 years. He knew life was short. He died ; I called her twice, made the arrangement to go back and do it. She could not find the STC to sign over. I had the NY ACO in on the act and with the CLE MIDO on board I then called and explained to her that I would bring the paper work back with me and the check. At that point , she said her son ; a night manger at Wal-Mart had a friend that "flew airplanes" and they wanted to keep it themselves.
I check each 3 months or so and get no positive response ; IT is the same with the Model D Type certificate ; the owners just didn't want to do anything and agve it to the PIMA Air Museum.
The same seems to be true with the present Taylorcraft factory and those TC's.
ALL this is discussed with the Foundation Board of Director's at our meetings. There are a lot of copies out there, someone needs to do it again under their name and reap the profits!! I still just do it on an individual basis using a copy of the STC as "acceptable data" . Check with your IA's they should understand how to do it.

[freightpilot27]

Re: Harer (Barber) STC update

One time at first then a multiple after my conformity inspection if no other one is available.

[akndrifter]

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I have heard absolutely nothing.
Nothing either way.
So, I'm in the process of creating my own.

Are you doing a 337, one time STC, or multiple STC?

[rammon3]

Re: Harer (Barber) STC update

I am just beginning my rebuild and I would really like to incorporate at least the structural changes for a later engine upgrade. I would fork over some green for that as well.

[flylo]

Re: Harer (Barber) STC update

I might want to chip in also.keep us posted please. Thanks! Eric:yahoo:

[Larry Lyons]

Re: Harer (Barber) STC update

The last I saw here was Forrest never got control because of the timing of the death and no interest. As I have said I am sure there are few more that would chip in now (like me) to get it going again, that would soften the price up front for D. Larry

[N96337]

Re: Harer (Barber) STC update

Doesn't Forest have control of the STC? I think there is an old thread in regards to this, but i'me not sure

That's what was meant by "never never land"...it's never never going to go any further. Hopefully Dave can get something positive done before this too is lost forever.
JH

[freightpilot27]

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Doesn't Forest have control of the STC? I think there is an old thread in regards to this, but i'me not sure

I have tried to get ahold of Forrest about this too.

Nothing.

Re: Harer (Barber) STC update

Doesn't Forest have control of the STC? I think there is an old thread in regards to this, but i'me not sure

Nice looking skis!!!

[T-Rex]

Re: Harer (Barber) STC update

Doesn't Forest have control of the STC? I think there is an old thread in regards to this, but i'me not sure

Re: Harer (Barber) STC update

Doubt you'll hear much too.... seems it's one more thing that's been
relegated to "never never land".... Maybe one of you could get ahold of Bob Harer's widow and actually offer money to obtain the rights to the STC and get it in the hands of someone that will do something with it.
John

I have done that. Got a reponse call last week, waiting for the rest of the story. Dave

[Larry Lyons]

Re: Harer (Barber) STC update

Yea I would put up some of the dough just to see it going again as I want part of it myself in a year or two. Larry