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**Pearson** · 08-13-2009, 11:35

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Assuming you have put a reasonable amount of torque on the wheels trying to get them to turn, the only other thing I would try is to see if you can remove them. Undo the cotter pin and axle nut. Then bump one edge of the tire. That should cause the outer bearing to pop out. Work the forward and aft edges of the tire in and out while pulling to get the inner bearing to come loose. Once you get the tire and wheel off, you can soak the bearings in oil to get them to free up enough to at least get it all loaded onto a trailer.

If the engine is froze up, fill the cylinders with transmission fluid and wait a day or so.

**Hank Jarrett** · 08-13-2009, 11:59

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Don't be so sure those wheels are frozen up. I would bet it is the brakes, not the bearings that are frozen. If the brakes are frozen I would remove the wheels and brakes together (I think that will work) and try and break them free on the bench. Pretty sure you will need to reline the brakes when you are done, but that is a pretty straight forward job that is pretty well documented on the group.
Hank

DON'T FORCE ANYTHING!

**Larry Lyons** · 08-14-2009, 13:25

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I agree with Hank, almost guaranteed to be the brakes. Do not force but sometimes a light tap side ways on the shoe with a screw driver and a ball peen hammer, if you can get access, will work. Another thing you can do is put as much torque as you can on the wheel/tire and then give the tire a swift kick either with the torque or against. Try both, a shock load like that will work wonders; sometimes. To apply the torque take a rope about 6 to 8 foot long, tie a small loop in each end, pass one end of the rope through the other loop, lay the rope around the tire and pull/cinch up tight (like a lasso) then use a long stick, 2X4, crow bar, pass it through the loop sticking out and pry against the tire with the long handle you have created. Press the bar down on the tire right on the rope to help anchor it until the rope gets tight. If this is clear as mud send me a PM with your phone and I will give you a call. Good luck!
Larry

**rammon3** · 08-15-2009, 05:12

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The brakes are what I suspected also. I'm going over to asses the situation next week and I'll try what you suggested Larry. Thanks to all for the feedback. I'll keep you posted.

**crispy critter** · 08-15-2009, 10:40

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Originally posted by rammon3 View Post

Greetings all! I have a project BC-12D that I need to move. It has been under cover, but it has sat for so long both wheels appear to be frozen to the axles. I can probably get the wheels on dollys for loading, but I was wondering if any of you know some simple means of getting the wheels to turn (yeah, I know, put air in the tires.). That would simplify things. I hope the engine was preserved well since the logs indicate it only has about 85 hrs on it and I am confident the logs were accurately maintained. The owner has, unfortunately, gone west. Therefore, I cannot ask questions. Any help with this problem would be appreciated as well as any tips on moving. Once I get it home the real fun begins.

If the brakes are not stuck due to the parking brake is being set try spraying the entire system with some corrsion X,ACF50, or some type of penetrating oil. Spray from and bake,soak the brakes too,maybe remove the axle nut so you can spary the outside bearing good(it is usually the one that will stick). Then simply rock the airplane back & forth until it frees up.

**Forrest Barber** · 08-20-2009, 12:07

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I now know that I can leave this earth and the forumn in good hands if it ever has to happen. Good information as always. I have been cleaning out a lot and may even have a great Tcraft to fly around in next week. More soon, Forrest

**rammon3** · 08-23-2009, 04:46

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Here's the latest status. It was the brakes as suspected. I did get the left side free after much spraying, tapping, cussing, etc. The right side is yet another matter. I can't get it to budge at this point and I've pretty much mangled the aluminum backer plate on the brake trying to knock the shoes loose. I'm going to let it sit for a couple of days and give the Breakfree (no pun intended) a chance to work. Then I'll give it another shot. Should I attempt to pull the wheel with a 3 jaw puller, or is that risking damage to the wheel? I guess I shouldn't be surprised that it's stuck so bad. The plane hasn't flown in 31 years. Any further suggestions?

**Hank Jarrett** · 08-23-2009, 05:23

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I would NOT use a puller (you will break the wheel) and DON'T beat on anything. Soaking for a while is a good idea, as is continuing to apply twisting force to the tire by rocking the wheel back and forth. This is one of those times where a thousand drips of water will do much more for you than a jack hammer. Hard hits will bend things up and won't break it loose, it will just break things.
When I was an engineer at a heavy maintenance facility for navy aircraft I would put an ultrasonic probe on the stuck part and soak it with penetrating oil. The probe would tap it MILLIONS of times and almost anything would break loose with hand pressure, no matter how rusted together it was. We also used a rivet gun (set VERY FAST, with VERY LOW force, if you are denting anything the force is too high).
Right now patience is your best tool. Don't get frustrated and hit something (OK, sometimes we all need to hit something, but beat on something like the end of your bench, not the airplane!) Don't worry about the brake dust cover. They are very soft aluminum and you can't imagine how easy they are to straighten out once off the plane. You may have to anneal it a couple of times, but I have bumped some really balled up ones back to where you can't tell they were ever damaged. It's actually fun. You get to hit something (LIGHTLY, but lots of times) and see is flow under the taps back into shape.
Hank

**Buell Powell** · 08-23-2009, 06:08

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Just wondering if you might be able to work the arm--which goes thru the backing plate the cable operates to help release the brakes.

**Doc** · 08-23-2009, 07:04

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Suggest you find a can of aerokroil for this and the next "stuck" project...it is a great penetrating oil...and...if you happen to break a wheel, I have a couple of sets on the shelf...and some refurbished (cad plated) shoes and actuators. Doc

**rammon3** · 08-23-2009, 07:30

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For now, I'll let patience be the order of the day and just leave it alone to soak. Maybe I'll make some slow roasted ribs and corn this afternoon. I'll try again in a couple of days and let y'all know how it went. Thanks for the input.

**Buell Powell** · 08-23-2009, 09:15

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Quote:Maybe I'll make some slow roasted ribs and corn this afternoon.
Sure wish I was there "to help". One other thing that may or may not help is to back the adjusting nuts off a turn or so and spray where the adjusting shoes are also-then see if you can use the arm to move the shoes before trying to remove the wheels.---when you try again. When you rebuild the brakes-be sure to replace the return springs.

**bashibazouk** · 08-23-2009, 09:48

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Originally posted by rammon3 View Post

I've pretty much mangled the aluminum backer plate on the brake trying to knock the shoes loose.

Skybound DOES have these as new items. Mine were missing chunks.

Josh
NC24369

**Hank Jarrett** · 08-23-2009, 17:37

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You can tap out a lot, but you can't tap in missing chunks.
Hank

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