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  • #16
    Re: “…some other good quality finish”?

    Originally posted by Ragwing nut View Post
    What color do you want, I have a good paint but color choice are limited.
    Color is really immaterial; this is the fuselage, so the only places that matter are the cockpit and I can paint over with whatever. I'm just trying to make the primer impervious to moisture. The primer is white, so something not-white would be good - Mike
    Mike Horowitz
    Falls Church, Va
    BC-12D, N5188M
    TF - 14954

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    • #17
      Re: “…some other good quality finish”?

      Originally posted by mhorowit View Post
      Color is really immaterial; this is the fuselage, so the only places that matter are the cockpit and I can paint over with whatever. I'm just trying to make the primer impervious to moisture. The primer is white, so something not-white would be good - Mike
      What finish color are you going to use in the cabin? Sherman Williams Polane with exterior catalyst is impervious. I know they have gray and black in an eggshell finish, I think gloss black, probably more colors but never used them. The gray and carbide black are widely used on metal props.

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      • #18
        Re: “…some other good quality finish”?

        I am just finishing up a Champ and I just used the Stewart Systems primer. It takes very little paint to paint it if you want to top coat it. Thin it down and turn the gun way down with very little pattern. No reason you cannot do it with a quart. Dan has always told me nothing more is needed other than primer. They do restorations there and that is all they use.

        Dan

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        • #19
          Re: “…some other good quality finish”?

          Originally posted by Dan Michaels View Post
          I am just finishing up a Champ and I just used the Stewart Systems primer. It takes very little paint to paint it if you want to top coat it. Thin it down and turn the gun way down with very little pattern. No reason you cannot do it with a quart. Dan has always told me nothing more is needed other than primer. They do restorations there and that is all they use.

          Dan
          Dan - I solved my problem - here's the story. After putzing around for quite sometime with trying to get my sandblaster to work properly, and worrying about rust reforming while the fuselage was under a tent at home, I called a commercial firm and discussed how to proceed. Turns out the owner was a pilot and had done some restoration, so I was greatly relieved to hear I was putting the fuse in reliable hands. I described my concerns and my desire to use the Stewart System primer. As I've been told, the STC doesn't begin until after the fuse is primed, so it doesn't matter what primer you use. The owner wasn't familiar with the primer, so he read what technical information he could find at the Stewart website. There is a description of how long they tested the primer in salt spray and he suggested those figures didn't speak well of the primer. I'm not going to be exposing this a/c to salt, but his concerns resonated with me. His recommendation was an epoxy primer followed by a finish coat (I think he said urethane); that will address my rusting-under-the-tent concerns and any worry about the primer. Now, I'm not being critical of the System; in fact I am gravitating towards the system because I can avoid the fumes, but I'm very unsure of myself and to have a pro question the primer, when I can sidestep that issue using his suggestion and then continue with the System - I'll take that route. Also, I wasn't happy with how the brushed-on primer looked over the part I primed; they recommended spraying and reluctantly agreed that it could be brushed on. I rushed it and it didn't look good; not the fault of the primer or the recommendations Stewart gave. - Mike
          Mike Horowitz
          Falls Church, Va
          BC-12D, N5188M
          TF - 14954

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          • #20
            Re: “…some other good quality finish”?

            Mike

            Don't forget about the INSIDE of the tubes also.
            Richard Pearson
            N43381
            Fort Worth, Texas

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            • #21
              Re: “…some other good quality finish”?

              Originally posted by Pearson View Post
              Mike

              Don't forget about the INSIDE of the tubes also.
              roger that.- right now my attention is focused on either getting a new bracket for the base of the tailpost, salvaging the old, or building a new one. - Mike
              Mike Horowitz
              Falls Church, Va
              BC-12D, N5188M
              TF - 14954

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              • #22
                Re: “…some other good quality finish”?

                Mike it is not easy to foam brush the primer on tubes. I do foam brush it on other parts though. Sometimes I have smaller parts (Champ landing gear) that I do not wish to get all set up to blow paint. It works just as well to brush it on. Much easier to spray tubes though.

                Stewart Systems will stick to anything so you do not have any worries about using it. I would suggest if you need to see the stuff work just ask Dan to send you a small sample kit. He will send you enough stuff to cover something small like an elevator. Once you work with the glue you will be hooked. The Ecofill is even easier. The only problem is the paint. You have a learning curve, start on small things and work your way up. Once you understand how to apply it, it is easy.

                Dan

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                • #23
                  Re: “…some other good quality finish”?

                  Originally posted by Dan Michaels View Post
                  Mike it is not easy to foam brush the primer on tubes. I do foam brush it on other parts though. Sometimes I have smaller parts (Champ landing gear) that I do not wish to get all set up to blow paint. It works just as well to brush it on. Much easier to spray tubes though.

                  Stewart Systems will stick to anything so you do not have any worries about using it. I would suggest if you need to see the stuff work just ask Dan to send you a small sample kit. He will send you enough stuff to cover something small like an elevator. Once you work with the glue you will be hooked. The Ecofill is even easier. The only problem is the paint. You have a learning curve, start on small things and work your way up. Once you understand how to apply it, it is easy.

                  Dan
                  Oh, I think I'm sold on the system; and the primer is probably just fine; I'm just a worry wart and my situation is a bit non-standard - having to do some of my work under a tent in a potentially moist environment. Thanks for chiming in. - Mike
                  Mike Horowitz
                  Falls Church, Va
                  BC-12D, N5188M
                  TF - 14954

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