Steel Needle Stromberg Carburetor

[flyken]

Re: Steel Needle Stromberg Carburetor

Oh I should probably add if you think it is fun taking your Stromberg apart on a hot sunny day in Florida try doing it in the Yukon at -25 celcius on a windy winter day and play with the float, replace needles, adjust the mixture control and cut gaskets then - no hangar of course. You may unfairly come to the conclusion that the best tool to use on a Stromberg is a sledge hammer. Or you might just go out and buy a precision carb.

[lfries]

Re: Steel Needle Stromberg Carburetor

Sounds like I don't have any choice but to destroy my perfectly reliable Stromberg (20 plus years) that I know of.

[flyguy]

Re: Steel Needle Stromberg Carburetor

Yep Lloyd, that problem I have when I switch to the left mag has got be that darn unreliable Stromberg. I'm sure glad I found out what a piece of crap they are--lucky thing my sledgehammer is down at the hangar, I'll just run down there and take care of that problem right now. (oops, I drink that double-caffe-latte in the AM and I just loose all control, Chuckle.)
DC

[flyken]

Re: Steel Needle Stromberg Carburetor

Well I'll start taking flying lessons agin ifn you do smash one up, not. Mine is still in a box in the back. The point is if you don't get a properly overhauled engine or properly overhauled mag or properly overhauled ...., is that you are going to have problems. If its mechanical it breaks - Socrates. There are also lots of good 0290s out there (maybe).

So IF you are having problems with your Stromberg, and certainly enuf people have over the years, is to know where or what to look for and why something has been done to it - like a tied off mixture control. What's funny is after you've gotten all the probs sorted out then you usually don't have confidence in the thing and even though it may run fine for years you look for better. And there is a better product out there.

I'm sure if I said anything about Eisemans vs the new mags I'd be getting the same arguments I've gotten over the Stromberg. Chalk it up to human nature.

[N96337]

Re: Steel Needle Stromberg Carburetor

Just keep in mind, guys and gals.......that this is the same guy that told us all about the "third AD" that was going to come out on Tcrafts...it went from "I hear" to "I figure" to "will most likely" to blah blah blah..... and in the end, it was just a waste of space and time to read... http://vb.taylorcraft.org/showthread.php?t=5784
Ken, you started out here on this thread by saying that the Stromberg passed fuel through the openings in the mixture plates...then when "reminded" that it's only air pressure...you still didn't get it, and insisted it was air flow....then it was "I am sorry if I was bad with my stromberg carb principles its been a long time since I dealt with one"... maybe you should've done a bit of studying before posting advice to someone? Then we heard about the "The toilet bowl in the stromberg only holds so much fuel and can only release that fuel at a limited rate".... implying that the Stromberg wasn't large enough to adequately do the job (?)...but amazingly the mixture that an engine likes to run at, will be the same no matter what brand of carburetor is on it, so I'm not seeing any relevance to anything you've said there. Like NY86 said before, if you've got enough dirt and crap in the carburetor to plug the holes in the mixture plates, you've got more trouble than just that! There's really no "trick" to setting up the mixture in a Stromberg..it's actually pretty simple...same with the float level. I guess we have manuals that we use for this "down here"...so it's not that complicated. I've been inside both Stromberg and Marvel carbs many times... neither is a big deal to work on....
Your posts don't carry much weight with me........
John

[flyguy]

Re: Steel Needle Stromberg Carburetor

Speaking of Eisemanns---if I could just get NEW coils; wait, wait, we've had that discussion already: Just Kidding. LOL
DC

[flyken]

Re: Steel Needle Stromberg Carburetor

Hey I am also the guy who said the SB was reasonable in my opinion and that some members here responded inappropriately to that. Don't leave that out! I said all along form what I am hearing that in my opinion there'd be a third AD. I kept rephrasing it cause some people didn't get what I meant. Perhaps I was too arch.
You are right I forgot my theory on the Stromberg and I said I was wrong. Frankly at this point I don't think it is too important for me to know it. That doesn't mean it isn't important for you.
I've also been told here that I can't know how to use mixture, carb heat or throttle all because I've pointed out some problems with the Stromberg and had the nerve to say the Precision is better which it is. I've even been told my Precision carb had to be a Marvel Carb. And it goes on and on.
Again you are welcome to disagree with me. I've read some pretty strong opinions on this forum and so I've followed the style and written a few myself.
My continental guru said I should not get involved in Forums as there are too many cranky/contrary people there. I am surprised at the attack mode here. So I have responded by being a bit absurd, a bit over the top, a bit serious, more than a little silly, tried to poke fun, and believe it or not tried at times to be nice. This is a forum the idea is to discuss and think. Frankly I think the meanspirited personal attacks not needed.

[Ron Greene]

Re: Steel Needle Stromberg Carburetor

Flyken,

I have been a forum member for six years. No one here is mean spirited. Look inward. I have reviewed every post you have written, you have a chip on your shoulder and you must always have the last word. Rest assured this will be my one and only post on this subject.

[flyken]

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Ron,
This one isn't so much to get the last word but to reply. I think we are all adults and each separate the wheat from the chaff for ourselves. I probably do have a chip on my shoulder - several - but you know I've never liked the idea that one guy can say whatever he wants the other can't respond. I thought I'd try this forum cause over the years there are less guys flying around. There are still a few and as I may not be a good match here I will play with them then.

[Ragwing nut]

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Anyone got any popcorn?

[NY86]

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...but you know I've never liked the idea that one guy can say whatever he wants the other can't respond...

Pot, this is Kettle. You're black!

Jujubes anyone?

[Arnold Wallace]

Re: Steel Needle Stromberg Carburetor

Hello Ken AND John,
I too, had enjoyed your discussion of the two carburetor views. Many of us read with interest remembering our own experiences with the contraptions and the problems. I remember a post I made a while back and was promptly "rattlesnake bit" which resulted in a long silence from my corner. Time heals and we decide that it is again our responsibility to share knowledge.
Let us digest your shared views/knowledge as it must be evaluated for the technical value as offered. I for one enjoy each tidbit of TECHNICAL information. Happy landings, Buzz

[flyken]

Re: Steel Needle Stromberg Carburetor

Hey there are no hard feelings on my part re the Stromberg as I expected it. I only regret not having time to change from my hip waders to my chest waders. I do regret losing 6 months plus flying due to the lift strut SB fiasco not to mention 2500 bucks gone to replace perfectly good lift struts. Over the years I've (we've all) seen too many pilots and planes go away because either someone didn't care or would not listen. So now I just speak louder to make sure everyone hears me. Agreement I do not expect.