25 gusting 27

[flyguy]

Paperwork done yesterday, took it around the pattern twice. Very calm and warm, as in sweaty hot. Flys ok in pattern. Put it away as tired from all the hassle.
This AM 50 degrees. That's nice. Wind 70 degrees across runway 25 knots gusting 27. Forcast for 35 MPH this PM. What do you think, should I keep it in
the hangar? lmao.
Darryl

[DanBrown]

Re: 25 gusting 27

Too much crosswind for me.

[MNJoe]

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Last Monday I had 28 gusting 43, 20 degrees off the runway on takeoff in Sioux Falls South Dakota. Earlier in the day going into Sioux Falls on the ILS at two thousand feet above the ground I was indicating 165 knots with a ground speed of 97 knots with a citation ahead of me, and three more turbine powered aircraft behind me. I was flying my A36 Bonanza, I figured the wind on take off was twice what I would want to fly in my T-Craft. Just think though if you made it to the runway you chould of made a helicopter take off!!

Joe

[flyguy]

Re: 25 gusting 27

If my math is right that is 68 kts, windy to say the least.
Only if I took off on the turnoff and helipad that is in about the same direction as the wind. They would probably frown on me turning 90 degrees as soon as I broke ground on 32 . Actually I have taken off in what was reported as 22 knots at 90 degrees with the Tcraft. Busy but not too scary. Think my max landing that I have done was about 15 at about 50 degrees. I did manage to back the Tcraft up one day according to the GPS. Minus 12 mph on the GPS at 50 indicated.
DC

[Larry Lyons]

Re: 25 gusting 27

Only if I took off on the turnoff and helipad that is in about the same direction as the wind. They would probably frown on me turning 90 degrees as soon as I broke ground on 32 . Actually I have taken off in what was reported as 22 knots at 90 degrees. Busy but not too scary. Think my max landing that I have done was about 15 at about 50 degrees. I did manage to back the Tcraft up one day according to the GPS. Minus 12 mph on the GPS at 50 indicated.
DC

A long time ago my friend and I backed his Aeronca Defender clear across the airport at about a 1000'. took us 45 mins. to go about a half a mile in reverse.
Larry

[flyguy]

Re: 25 gusting 27

Sometimes slow airplanes are the most fun.
DC

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: 25 gusting 27

Sometimes????

Taylorcrafts are for flying (and working on)
Bonanzas, Barrons, Mooneys, SR-22s and Lancairs are for TRANSPORTATION!
Transportation is fun if you gotta go anyway, but who fly one just for fun?
Want fun? Fly a Taylorcraft.
Hank

[MNJoe]

Re: 25 gusting 27

Hank,

I would fly my T-craft if T-Rex's boss told him to but mine on Floats, the ice is out here in Minnesota and I can't wait to try the new bird out on floats. In fact my Baumann floats were suppose to be on Dano's airplane along time ago

Joe

[flyguy]

Re: 25 gusting 27

Hank, surely you don't want to underrate: Nanchang CJ6's, Pitts specials, L-29's, Mig15's, Yak52's, Whitman Tailwinds; bet you can think of many more that fall into a fun-and-go-fast group.
Sometimes? Always? OK, OK, I'll compromise: often.
Darryl

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: 25 gusting 27

I'm in an office where we are working on changes to the national transportation system (almost all aviation). I am currently surrounded by good folks, who, unfortunately just don't seem to get it that flying for the joy of it is one of the greatest gifts you can experience. They think of flying as just transportation (or military). I REALLY want to get my T back in the air so they can see for themselves how much FUN flying can be. I also love flying of ALL types (OK, never have gotten used to negative G aero) from gliders to Cessna's to Piper's, Mooney's and even a B-200. They are ALL great. I even like flying on airliners (but the front two seats make it a lot better). The problem isn't that I underrate other forms of flying, it's that the people around me don't seem to have ever had all of the pure fun of flying we all seem to take for granted. We have to spread the fun we have around, ESPECIALLY to the folks in government. Particularly the FAA types who are leading the transportation first at the expense of any other type of flying. Even in bad cross winds.
Hank

[Len Petterson]

Re: 25 gusting 27

Hank, Hang in there, take a small plane and give the boss a ride one day even if you have to borrow a C150.
Do some stalls but don't scare him or her.
and/or invite the person to a EAA or similar meeting.
Show and tell stile, show how well a homebuilt or resturation can be dune.
Tell how airline rules don't work for us.
Maybe to have talk about saftey and lead a discution on the saftey or other topic. The FAA person get to meet the us the little fellow and we them.
Now knowledge is gained on both side of the fence.
We had our local airtrafic controler speak again to our RAA chapter.
Greath exchange of ideas and information.
Good luck Hank, we all need your succes!(;f
FAA has effect here in Canada as well.
Not all the time but I wich we would have some the same rules sometime and EAA's sugested antique aircraft rule would have past.
Can you pock, ever so carefull, in the aches from the antique aircraft rules, and see if there is anything left burning?

[flyguy]

Re: 25 gusting 27

Hank, what a coincidence that you should be writing about the joy of flight. I was just thinking before I sat down at the computer here of how strange it was to make a "normal" afternoon test flight of 30 minutes.

How incredibile for just an average guy to roll my relatively simple airplane out of it's hangar, do some easy checks, start it up and take off into the sky.
It was a beautiful day, except more than a bit of turbulence, and I just easily climbed up to 5,000 or so. A mile up in the sky. Eight or 10 minutes. I had the sky all to myself in that area and I just wandered around. No one cared. Probably not a soul even looked up.

It is an incredible thing and every once and a while I have to kick myself when if I am guilty of taking it for granted.
With all the plastic values, and people who try to choke the joy out of everything that happens on the ground, it is so fine to be up there where the petty little gods have no control or influence at all. Freedom. What a gift.
Darryl

[Hank Jarrett]

Re: 25 gusting 27

Len,
Already have the invite out to the boss and my old contractor from NASA (who I recruited and is now a supervisor in my current company). Fred (the new supervisor) is a long time aviation fanatic, but he thinks of airplanes more for transportation and has forgotten how much fun it is to fly and not go any place. He is an old Navy A-4 pilot and I doubt ANY maneuver I could (would) do would scare him. He has joined a local flying club, but doesn't seem very impressed with their IFR C-182. He flew a Barron for years and I used to love going with him. WHAT A PLANE!
The FAA work we are doing is heavy into transport stuff and I am the vocal one jumping in as soon as they start proposing anything that restricts our type of flying (and that stuff gets proposed a LOT!). I keep proposing that they just give the 15,000' and up airspace to the "equipped" planes and give us the 5,000' and below. Equipage is a big issue and the heavies idea of inexpensive mandatory equipage would scare any of us to death! The jets hate flying down at our altitudes anyway (eats tons of fuel) and we don't usually go over 10,000' because it takes all day to get there and who wants to take O2 along anyway. We can negotiate the airspace between 5k and 15k as well as getting rid of the upside down wedding cakes and going to approach corridors for the airliners. Let them marshal high up where they are efficient and we will stay the heck OUT of their corridors!
Airline rules and fees sure don't help us in any way. I am doing a lot of the safety and interoperability stuff but get the feeling everyone else would just like for us to go away and turn the airspace over to the "serious" flyer's.
We really DO get a lot of mileage from taking the local controllers up to see what "real flying" (recreational) is all about. Talk to your local FAA folks and take them up! Best time is on a high overcast day with good low level visibility. You don't want to bounce them around and you DO want them to get a good view.
Everybody needs to get in on the act. Young Eagles is great for the kids but "Bald Eagles" rides just might turn someone to our side who can actually make a difference for us.
Hank

[Larry Lyons]

Re: 25 gusting 27

Len,
Young Eagles is great for the kids but "Bald Eagles" rides just might turn someone to our side who can actually make a difference for us.
Hank

I like that, gonna take that to my EAA chapter. Larry