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  • #16
    Re: Mag and plugs....rough mag question

    Hello everyone,

    I started up the plane and initially it had a 300-350 RPM drop on the left mag with the right mag about 25 RPM. Running it and getting it warmed up a bit on the ground seemed to help get the drop a bit better. After a short flight to get the engine up to normal operating temperature, the drop was even better (~250 RPM) but it was also having a slight miss and running rough when on the left mag. We removed all bottom plugs and cleaned them. They were pretty cruddy. We also visually inspected the wires and they looked good. We then started her up again and the drop was better but still about 200 RPM on the left mag with no miss or bad roughness. The mechanic checked to make sure both mags were timed the same and they are. He did indicate that this does not mean they are timed properly…something else we will check but were not in the position to do so yesterday. This was checked at the last annual about 10 hrs ago and the mags are only 60 hrs since new. We also cleaned the top plugs and the ercoupe cups out which had some grease/oil in them. We checked the top wires visually. In flight the mags sound good when switching to either mag.

    Anyway the RPM drop is not consistent…sometimes it is 50 othertime 350 RPM and sometimes it is variable and goes up and down inside of that range if you leave it on the left mag for several seconds (particularly now between 50-250 RPM). We agreed it needs further analysis but in the mechanic’s opinion the plane was safe for flight to get it back to its hanger. The strange thing is after returning to the home airport (~ 1 hr flight) I taxied back to the hanger and did a run-up check prior to shutdown and the RPM drop was normal with 25 RPM on each mag and not a hint of roughness. It was the best run-up I saw all day.

    Any further thoughts on where to go with this issue? We want to check the internal timing but have pretty much ruled out the plugs and wires at this point (unless someone thinks otherwise).

    Thanks,
    Brian

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    • #17
      Re: Mag and plugs....rough mag question

      1,400 is cheap as the gears are normally 500 a pop!

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      • #18
        Re: Mag and plugs....rough mag question

        They are SF-4, not the s-20's, unless I missed something...Tim
        N29787
        '41 BC12-65

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        • #19
          Re: Mag and plugs....rough mag question

          for bt you had a bad ( fouled) plug , if it cleared up then you should bomb test the plugs or do cold cylinder check and then switch the plugs around and do another cold cylinder, yes plugs do go bad. I have had them bad right out of the box. It could be in the cap or mag with moisture.
          Taylorcraft Foundation, Inc
          Forrest A Barber 330-495-5447
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          www.BarberAircraft.com
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          • #20
            Re: Mag and plugs....rough mag question

            Originally posted by astjp2 View Post
            They are SF-4, not the s-20's, unless I missed something...Tim
            You are right, I must have lost track of the thread and was thinking SF-4 was ok for you.

            Seems like a pretty good price even for SF-4s.

            Dave

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            • #21
              Re: Mag and plugs....rough mag question

              Hello All...
              An old German machanic taught me a great trick for finding a bad plug. Cut 4 small pieces of electrical tape and stick them on the exhaust stack just below each cylinder with the engine cold (I had to loosen up the lower cowl to get to the front jugs). Then cowl it up and run the engine on the rough mag for about a minute or so. Shut down the engine and take a look at each cylinder. The tape will be burned away from the good cylinders and will look like you just taped it on to the cylinder with the bad plug. I found the bad plug instantly.

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