taylorcraft owner club existing????

[Forrest Barber]

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Love you David, can you bring the Taylorcraft AND the Aeronca here in July...

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Carelessly unaware hmmm . Perhaps we did not stress that the Taylorcraft Foundation was set up by Bob Ollerton, Forrest Barber, Doug Combs and Bruce Bixler to drag a lot of folks kicking and screaming into the age of the Internet.
Last year at the 35th Annual Fly-In we combined with the Aeronca folks to get enough help to bring this off. I made it quite clear then and at Air Venture that it would be the last one.
I just erased a full page of explanation thanking Bruce & his family for their hard work over the years. His family & my family put their heart and soul into this time of year. Too mushy to share at the moment.

Times change, bodies grow weary, folks die.

Last year we pulled it off due to EAA Chapter #82, Bruce, myself, our families, Brian & his family, Chuck & Connie Baughman, Dave & Judy Whitaker and Lou Whitaker. Duke Iden & the Old-Timer's . AND the folks that showed up . I have had e-mails and phone calls, two said they were coming anyhow just to camp under the wing that week-end. WOW!

Sooooo , it is done I have talked with the support gang around here and we are doing it; slight change in dates ( probably for the good)

The 36th Annual Taylorcraft Fly-In & Reunuion will be Fri., Sat. Sun. July 11th,12th & 13th, 2008. The Taylorcraft Foundation, Barber Aircraft & EAA #82 will host the fly-in and invite the Aeronca folks to join us; heck any Grassroots type ships are welcome. More as we plan it out. YES, I will try to delegate some tasks and mow the place... I know that Steve & Sharon Krog will support the idea and we can continue the education of Joel Gehring about Taylorcrafts. I will start a new thread soon. A few things have to be worked out.
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Yeah, my wife thinks that's a polite way to say knuckle head!

[Forrest Barber]

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Carelessly unaware hmmm . Perhaps we did not stress that the Taylorcraft Foundation was set up by Bob Ollerton, Forrest Barber, Doug Combs and Bruce Bixler to drag a lot of folks kicking and screaming into the age of the Internet.
Last year at the 35th Annual Fly-In we combined with the Aeronca folks to get enough help to bring this off. I made it quite clear then and at Air Venture that it would be the last one.
I just erased a full page of explanation thanking Bruce & his family for their hard work over the years. His family & my family put their heart and soul into this time of year. Too mushy to share at the moment.

Times change, bodies grow weary, folks die.

Last year we pulled it off due to EAA Chapter #82, Bruce, myself, our families, Brian & his family, Chuck & Connie Baughman, Dave & Judy Whitaker and Lou Whitaker. Duke Iden & the Old-Timer's . AND the folks that showed up . I have had e-mails and phone calls, two said they were coming anyhow just to camp under the wing that week-end. WOW!

Sooooo , it is done I have talked with the support gang around here and we are doing it; slight change in dates ( probably for the good)

The 36th Annual Taylorcraft Fly-In & Reunuion will be Fri., Sat. Sun. July 11th,12th & 13th, 2008. The Taylorcraft Foundation, Barber Aircraft & EAA #82 will host the fly-in and invite the Aeronca folks to join us; heck any Grassroots type ships are welcome. More as we plan it out. YES, I will try to delegate some tasks and mow the place... I know that Steve & Sharon Krog will support the idea and we can continue the education of Joel Gehring about Taylorcrafts. I will start a new thread soon. A few things have to be worked out.
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[VictorBravo]

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Bob, simply tell people that they have two options as far as keeping this forum up and running:

1. Pay $15 a year to the Foundation
2. Pay an amount equal to HALF the dollar value of whatever advice, knowledge, and/or technical support they get from this website.

Pay whichever is the lesser amount !

You should have quite a few $15 checks come in

Heck, the Great L. Cheapo (that's me) will even send in a check.

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No Foundation money goes to support this site. And none has been requested.

It costs me about $500 a year out of pocket for software & support, with the hosting and network bandwidth donated by a friend thats worth another $2,400.

I would feel less of a sucker if more of you would join the Foundation and pay the $15 a year.

That tiny amount of money goes towards office supplies, postage, phone bill, archival and storage materials. Maybe a milk bone or two. Board members get no pay, and buy their own lunch...

Do your share to make this work, don't be a slacker.
Its not cool to let someone else pay your way when you are able to.

Good point Bob,

Up till last year I had been using the forum and was carelessly unaware that it was seperate from TOC and was supported by the Foundation alone.

I did join ASAP when I gained that understanding.

I suspect that many others are equally unaware.

The $15 a year is quite a hardship for a poor airplane owner. However I pay $1.61 each workday for a cup of coffee on the way to work. So now I just defray the cost of Foundation membership by skipping coffee one day a month except for during the celebratory holiday months of Nov. and Dec.

Dave

[ROllerton]

Re: taylorcraft owner club existing????

No Foundation money goes to support this site. And none has been requested.

It costs me about $500 a year out of pocket for software & support, with the hosting and network bandwidth donated by a friend thats worth another $2,400.

I would feel less of a sucker if more of you would join the Foundation and pay the $15 a year.

That tiny amount of money goes towards office supplies, postage, phone bill, archival and storage materials. Maybe a milk bone or two. Board members get no pay, and buy their own lunch...

Do your share to make this work, don't be a slacker.
Its not cool to let someone else pay your way when you are able to.

[ROllerton]

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if there is a gathering in alliance this year, I promise to come. maybe Tucker will come too. I will come early and stay late. I will bring ice water to Forrest on the tractor as he mows.

[Jim Herpst]

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Oh boy, did this one get lively. Well all good. I believe the truth comes to the light of day as always.

This site has been FOR FREE provided to us and its great that the owners and admirers of the Tcraft name alike come together and not always but by and large come through time and again with the info THAT SUPPORTS THE PLANE. :bravo:

If some foundation $$ goes to support this site then it SHOULD be mandated I would think for everyone to join. News letters have been and are a treat.However ,with technology and the speed at which information is disceminated we are rapidly now leaving items like newsletters behind IMHO.
Major newspapers accross the country are fighting this battle every day as society changes hands.............

Forrest me lad my 15 bucs for renewal in the foundation is heading north with a ray of sunshine from the south.

I would like to encourage all of us to stick together and support the Foundation which really is simply all of us together. Strength in numbers. I like the come one come all approach that Forrest is and always has sounded . Also think it should be come to the Foundation (HERE) first for any one interested in making a buck from the name. After all WE are the prospects or customer for ANYTHING TAYLORCRAFT.

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I love this group and this forum, I personally have felt as a group you were too soft on the Factory and now I feel you are being easily awed by the NEW TOC newsletter.

Yes it looks professional and has been pre-punched to fit in a three ring binder, you will now pay $35.00 to receive this 12 page publication four times a year. Would you pay 9 dollars for a 12 page magazine off the magazine rack? Not to mention the 12 pages you are paying for include commercial advertisements taking up space in those 12 pages and a full page ad for a raffle drawing for the Cub Club.

Now I realize this is the first issue so I will not be critical of the content except the Events column, you would think with a little Taylorcraft knowledge or investigation the Taylorcraft fly-in at Barber field would be included but it is not.

I personally will not pay this amount of money for generic news that can be obtained free or at a reasonable amount elsewhere, especially to support a commercial venture.

Forrest, I would be more than happy to place your “Taylorcrafter” newsletters onto CD’s for free.

Ron Greene

Hey Ron,

I agree with your assesment.

Dave

[Forrest Barber]

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Thank you Ron I believe I addressed this on another thread. Bob, Rob & the Foundation Board will decide real soon.
As you can see the web site is now Foundation oriented, the newsletters will go there too!! and the CD is a great idea!
Please e-mail me direct so we can catch up on other stuff to do for your project(s). As too the Fly-In at Alliance for 2008 ; that may not happen.
WE did it for 35 years and I am tired. This was all announced at the Fly-In last year and at Air Venture. I posted it too!! Bob has left it open on the web site , I am preparing the Barber Airport activities right NOW! IF any members want this to happen in 2008 , let me know [email protected] . All activities have to be planned at least four months in advance.
IF there is a ground swell of any body who wishes to carry on the tradition , go for it, I will still mow the grass just like I did for the Taylorcraft Owners Club for 35 years...

[Tom G]

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I just got a copy of the Taylorcraft News today. Very nice job! I'll be signing up.

[Ron Greene]

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I love this group and this forum, I personally have felt as a group you were too soft on the Factory and now I feel you are being easily awed by the NEW TOC newsletter.

Yes it looks professional and has been pre-punched to fit in a three ring binder, you will now pay $35.00 to receive this 12 page publication four times a year. Would you pay 9 dollars for a 12 page magazine off the magazine rack? Not to mention the 12 pages you are paying for include commercial advertisements taking up space in those 12 pages and a full page ad for a raffle drawing for the Cub Club.

Now I realize this is the first issue so I will not be critical of the content except the Events column, you would think with a little Taylorcraft knowledge or investigation the Taylorcraft fly-in at Barber field would be included but it is not.

I personally will not pay this amount of money for generic news that can be obtained free or at a reasonable amount elsewhere, especially to support a commercial venture.

Forrest, I would be more than happy to place your “Taylorcrafter” newsletters onto CD’s for free.

Ron Greene

[Forrest Barber]

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Now that we are lightened up. Steve Krog, 1002 Heather Lane, Hartford, WI 53027-9045 262.966.7627 [email protected] . PLEASE read a copy of the latest Sport AViation for a great story on Steve & Sharon Krog and their able assistant Joel Gehring, whose father was one of the ORIGINAL Taylorcraft guys 35 years ago. .
Steve & Sharon have been sitting in the Type Club tent across from the Taylorcraft Owners Club & Taylorcraft Foundation set up for years.
The situation with the Bruce Bixler and the Taylorcraft Owners Club has been explained here in Alliance at the last Fly-In ; at Airventure during the forumn. and in my own newsletter. Steve please excuse some members, when they get off their meds they can be viscious. :boxing:
Now for my COMMENTS : The Owners Club started here in Alliance in 1973 with the First Fly-In , this has all been explained many times on this forumn and my electronic newsletters. First President was Wayne, then another fellow , then Merton Meade Jr. for about three years and then WE elected Bruce Bixler to carry on the tradition.
Each year for all these years Bruce has been re elected to the position of President of the Taylorcraft Owners Club, THEY are the ones to put on the fly-in at the Barber Airport the week-end after the 4th of July. With the formation of the Taylorcraft Foundation; I, Forrest Barber had to wear three hats at that time of year; FBO Barber Aircraft, Foundation President, and loyal member of the TOC ( Taylorcraft Owners Club) of which I am a member "Forever" according to my membership card.
In 2006 at the annual meeting of the Foundation in July it was suggested that the Foundation & TOC join together as one type club and WE would then have an outside source; ie Steve Krog do the newsletter for the combined group. I had talked to others too! Bruce & his family would have received the $5.00 per member for turning over the data base of members.
Bruce did not want to do this, he explained that this was deeply loved by his family & they wanted to continue the operation as it was being done.

The matter was dropped. The Directors of the Foundation did not want to publish a hard copy newsletter.
WE , The Foundation, have done three electronic ones ( titled the "Taylorcrafter" )during 2007 and will continue to do so.

Bruce apparently sold the rights to the Taylorcraft Owners Club to Steve Krog and he has published the " Taylorcraft News" which went out to all members on the mailing list.
The original Taylorcraft News was by the factory for the factory.

The "Taylorcrafter" was " published by and for the employees of the Taylorcraft Aviation Corporation, Alliance, Ohio, and dedicated to the principle that the interests of the employees and the employer are mutual and inseparable".
THIS is the direct quote from the masthead. We have almost all copies stored here at the Foundation. I may scan and attach a few pages. They really need to be placed on CD. I have a few copies of the Taylorcraft News.
NOW , what do I want to do. I believe I am the one that set up the talks with Steve in the first place. HE and HIS family and business are a great asset to the Type Club movement. I will co operate with him and IF he wishes will write articles for the newsletter, OR he may pick out parts of some of my e-newsletters to use.
All issues on the struts & attach fittings are completely current on the Discussion forumn vb.tayorcraft.org and we will update the web site asap. www.taylorcraft.org The printed newsletters and magazines ( like Sport Aviaton & Vintage) and newspapers like General Aviation News are always a bit behind do to printing and mailing.
I truly believe the web site & forumn that was set up by Bob Ollerton & Ruth are the way to go. Most of The Owners Club members could never understand that reasoning. Not one member requested I send them a hard copy of the Foundation newsletters. Remember all you fellows who read and post on this site IT was the Foundation that did this service.
We have so far not insisted that you pay your $15.00 to the Foundation to use this site, I do monitor that feature and just wonder why some do not join up.
Love you all , I am monitoring the weather for an early morning flight over to Grove City , Pa.. to help set up a new IAC Chapter.

[Jim Herpst]

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Hank,

Thanks I have been hearing it was good. Do you have the contact info for him.

Andrew please re-read my post. I believe I stated my frustration and why. If that offends you sorry. All of us can lighten up (me included)

Thanks

[Hank Jarrett]

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I don't know if all the newsletters will be as good as the first but Steve Krog blew me away with the first one. REALLY first class! I really don't WANT the next step up, which would be the slick paper "magazine" type newsletters. We don't need (or want) that.
Hank
Heck, he even punched holes so it could be put in a binder!:joy: