Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

[jstall]

Re: Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

[QUOTE=jstall;36721]Gentlemen

I'm posting in the blind, but I just got info from my I.A. after my annual and the strut inspection, that he can't find any info from the FAA files on line that would indicate that the FAA has granted an extension to the time compiance of the A/D from 24 months to 48?? and won't sigh it off??
Dammit, where does this end?? can anyone help??

was this a pipe dream at 3:00 a.m. from Andy McAnaul, or is it fact??

JS

and if it is fact where do we find it< the most amazing deal I've ever seen
hands down

FOUND IT?? AMOC-----

JS

[jstall]

Re: Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

Gentlemen

I'm posting in the blind, but I just got info from my I.A. after my annual and the strut inspection, that he can't find any info from the FAA files on line that would indicate that the FAA has granted an extension to the time compiance of the A/D from 24 months to 48?? and won't sigh it off??
Dammit, where does this end?? can anyone help??

was this a pipe dream at 3:00 a.m. from Andy McAnaul, or is it fact??

JS

and if it is fact where do we find it< the most amazing deal I've ever seen
hands down

JS

[Buell Powell]

Re: Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

Forrest,
I could be wrong but I was under the impression that X-Ray was to be done and if any problems were found then they were to be tested for wall thickness. When several sets were taken to All American Testing in San Antonio some showed that there were areas that showed problem areas on the X-Rays. Instead of testing for wall thickness they just said there was no reason to do the next test and failed them (even though they charged full price). This leads me to believe that there are probably struts that failed that may not be bad depending on where they are taken. There just seem to be no consistancy in testing. . It could be that all of them are bad but the only way to know for sure is to have all of the ones that failed tested under the same conditions-all the test preformed. Prehaps this is another problem that should be considered with the AD.

[Forrest Barber]

Re: Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

YES please comment that is why WE are doing this. I comment directly to the FAA Engineer . I want to have the extension too , too many owners jumped on the band wagon to get new struts to exchange for some times better struts.
Time will sort out the truth. I do agree that more bad ones were found than I thought would show up , THIS shows that we do not Inspectors out there that know what to look for during maintenance. Perhaps an age of the STRUT needs to be addressed.

[Buell Powell]

Re: Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

Buell, I see my comments, I also wonder why there aren't more.

Tom,
I agree with your comment. I sent a set of 1977 F19 struts to have tested. The X-Rays show no corrosion at all-they are 4130 and had never been treated. It does not seem reasonable to have to remove them every 4 years-especially after treating them. I requested that Poly Fiber Tube Seal be included. I asked for an extension and pointed out that the Taylorcraft factory owner who instigated the AD has yet to produce any struts and there is still no direct replacement sealed struts for the F series or pre-war Taylorcrafts and in apx 70 years of service no Taylorcraft strut has ever failed so an extension should not present an immediate danger. I pointed out they had the cost for replacing struts incorrect since they did not include shippping and the cost of painting. I don't know if anything will be considered but since our opportunity to comment before the original AD was issued had been waived I thought I should take advantage of this probably last chance-hope some others will also.

[tabranch]

Re: Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

Is anyone planing on submitting a comment on the proposed new strut AD? The deadline is Jan 9. I just submitted one and only 1 has been posted so far.

Buell, I see my comments, I also wonder why there aren't more.

[Buell Powell]

Re: Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

Is anyone planing on submitting a comment on the proposed new strut AD? The deadline is Jan 9. I just submitted one and only 1 has been posted so far.

[ken hecht]

Re: Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

the Original Taylorcraft Sealed Strut P/N is MA-A815, for the Airframes, Inc P/N is AF-MA-A815 this is for the Sealed Front Lift Strut, and for the Sealed Rear Lift Strut ,The Original Taylorcraft Sealed Strut P/N MA-A854, and for the Airframes, Inc P/N AF-MA-A854. This is the Data I recieved from Airframes with my approved Sealed Struts. I thought I'd add this to the mix.
Ken
#375 TF

[N95334]

Re: Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

(7) As a terminating action for the repetitive inspections
required by this AD, all vented lift
struts (P/Ns A–A815, A–A854, and FAA-approved
equivalent P/Ns) may be replaced
with sealed lift struts (P/Ns MA–A815, UA–
A815 (for Models BC12–D/D1 and BCS12–
D/D1 only), MA–A854, UA–854 (for Models
BC12–D/D1 and BCS12–D/D1 only), or FAAapproved
equivalent P/Ns).

I think (P/Ns MA-A815 and MA-A854) is Airframes Inc.

[Forrest Barber]

Re: Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

Another thing that I have to stress highly. INSPECT the strut attach fittings,do a good job, IMHO I expect a NPRM very soon on the fitting inspection.

[Forrest Barber]

Re: Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

This is true.....no extension yet... comment on that during the comment period !! Yes we repair struts all the time that is the reason for Part 43. Here in Alliance we have a few ships on hold till this AD is final. In a nut shell ; for folks around me; I RECOMMEND that the struts be taken off and taken to ACUREN USI www.acuren.com the testing will be done in the Twinsburg, Ohio facility , the contact person is Darrin Vaughan, Sales Manager, (talked to him today)[email protected] ph 330-899-0566 Uniontown, Oh.

I would like to have four sets at a time go from Barber Airport, 2D1. up for testing. Henry, Bruce, Dave, Forrest and any others contact me for a date. I will drive the first batch up maybe this month. Then around the country and the World our members can use the ones suggested on the forumn OR use www.acuren.com to find a facility near you. This facility will charge $275.00 for a set of four struts. This price may vary in different regions.

[Buell Powell]

Re: Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

When I first read in the proposed new AD that the FAA amends by removing the old AD and by adding a new AD and that we had until January 9 2008 to submit comments that there would be extension of time to comply and a chance to comment before a new deadline.- I see now that it still states that we had until 3 months from August 20 2007.

[Robert Lees]

Re: Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

I'm very pleased that the FAA has listened to (and acted upon) some of the comments they received.

I'm disappointed that no response was made to my comment about the possibility of repairing a failed strut in accordance with AC43.13 (e.g. sleeving).

I even learned about a "sticky"

There's hope for you yet!

Rob

[Forrest Barber]

Re: Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

I too have many questions, keep reading while I take Kelli-Belle for a walk.
thank you computer savy people for the PDF for those of you who could use the direct link perhaps check your computers mine works fine... I even learned about a "sticky". Too late to talk with Andy today. I will read and underline and try to follow all the thinkings. Going over to Acurion by CAK tomorrow. We have gotten the best changes we could at the time. As you can see, even some of the best in the business apparently got confused.

Comments on the EAA Vintage Magazine article ??

Re: Revised Strut AD Dec 10th, 2007

Hey Guys,

I've attached a pdf file from the www.regulations.gov website. You can go there to make comments...

Dan

Thank you Dan