strut hardware

[N95334]

Re: strut hardware

AN365-524 5@
Think you need 6 of those.

[Ron Coleman]

Re: strut hardware

You might be right Dennis. I just checked Airframes Page 4 materials required list and it indicated AN365-524 quantity 5, but on page 3 there is a "refere3nce" and on page 10 there is a "bellow instead of below". I figured that there might be other simple mistakes so I ordered extras of everything. If necessary I will close a couple of bolts and nuts in a Kodak film can with a shot of gin. In a day or two when I open the can I will have a couple more nuts....AN364-524's that is.

RonC

[TimHicks]

Re: strut hardware

Another small addendum:
On my airplane the AN3-15A is a bolt that holds the jury struts on all 4 points. Also the tie down rings.

So instead of quantity of 2, my airplane needs a quantity of 10.

Same for the accompanying nuts AN365-1032 10 ea.

And washers NAS/149F0363P, I had about 3 per bolt (spacers) so I need 25 or 30 of them.

[astjp2]

Re: strut hardware

Hardware is cheap when compared to not having enough and dont find out until you are halfway through. I always buy hardware with extra and put it on the shelf.
I just packed my hardware into a box when I was cleaning up my hanger during my last rotation and I have about 300#s of bolts, nuts, rivets, washers, and dzus fastners. I am alway lookin for a deal. I did get a steal on 2 foot lockers of electrical connectors from a military surplus house in Minot ND, got them both for $60.00, now I have more ring terminals than I know what to do with.

[N95334]

Re: strut hardware

Ron your nuts But funny
Since shipping is high and hardware is not that expensive compared to shipping. Besides I always order extra bolts one dash size below and one dash size up from what is called for. I also order "L" thin washers along with regular ones. Over the years you will always find a use for them one day.
Talking about hardware I used stainless steel A/N 3/16" bolts on the door hinges with Stainless steel A/N castle nuts and cotter pins. Wow I bet DJ's AI would would have a cow over that

[jim34285]

Re: strut hardware

Well I went through the material that came with the Airframes struts. There are installation instructions, a log of revisions, a page identifying applicable models, a page listing materials required for the installation. This page lists:
30" bubble or digital level
tape measure 1/16" grads. min. 2@
Bolts AN3-15A 2@
AN5-13A 4@
AN5-27A 2@
Washers AN960-10 4@
AN960-516 as required
Nuts AN365-10 2@
AN365-524 5@
Thread Sealant Mastinox 6856K as required

Pages detail leveling, rigging, and replacing one strut at a time follow.
Nice clear instructions. Finally they have included a STC.

They mention a corrosion preventitive for the exposed threads, but they did not identify what it should be unless they were refering to Mastinox. Aircraft Spruce does not stock Mastinox.

You should probably include a borescope and finishing materials for the fus. to strut fittings and heat for the hanger if you are working above the Mason Dixon line (did I say a bad thing?).

The struts are in the hanger, the borescope is beside me on the chair, the hardware should be here on Monday and if all goes well I will be in the air a couple of days after that.

If not, I'll have to fly the open cockpit sparrow.

RonC

Ron,
Would you be willing to email a copy of the instructions for installing the struts?
Jim

email: [email protected]

[jdoran]

Re: strut hardware

Ron,

When you looked in your ear, did you find that pencil eraser from 4th grade?

[Ron Coleman]

Re: strut hardware

Strange that you should ask John. My grandmother was an indentured servant from England and she brought with her many of the old family ways, which she passed on to her many children. One of her little "things" passed down to my mother was a way to keep me occupied while she cleaned my ears with a bobby pin, a wigglly shaped wire with a hoop on one end. While she scooped the wax out of my ears she would tell me what she found, like, a wood wheel barrow, a steam shovel, a porter locomotive, s Studebaker surry, or a pub outhouse. Well maybe not a pub outhouse. Our family was very methodist.

At any rate, when I looked into my ears with the scope to see if anything was still in there, much to my surprise, I found my long lost Taylorcraft brick.

Now is that not a hoot?

RonC

[Ron Coleman]

Re: strut hardware

Hi Jim
I will call and ask Airframes for permission to post their instructions.

RonC

[Larry Lyons]

Re: strut hardware

Strange that you should ask John. My grandmother was an indentured servant from England and she brought with her many of the old family ways, which she passed on to her many children. One of her little "things" passed down to my mother was a way to keep me occupied while she cleaned my ears with a bobby pin, a wigglly shaped wire with a hoop on one end. While she scooped the wax out of my ears she would tell me what she found, like, a wood wheel barrow, a steam shovel, a porter locomotive, s Studebaker surry, or a pub outhouse. Well maybe not a pub outhouse. Our family was very methodist.

At any rate, when I looked into my ears with the scope to see if anything was still in there, much to my surprise, I found my long lost Taylorcraft brick.

Now is that not a hoot?

RonC

So funny, brings back old memories. My mother did the same to me. Thanks for the memory. Larry

[Ron Coleman]

Re: strut hardware

This is the final word on the subject (you bet!)
I called Airframes today and had a nice long comfortable conversatioin with a head man.

The gist of the conversation was this:

He would rather I didn't post their instructions for installation of the struts. I assume that limits their liability to the struts that they sold. I understand that and will honor his preferences.

The Airframes struts require the completiion of the STC and he does not think that it can be changed. He thinks that the STC may be a simple check the box and send in the paper work (with the proper signature).

In a short time he plans to leave a message on the forum regarding the struts and the STC.

For me, everything is as clear as a bell. I am going to paint the struts, follow Airframes instructions, install the struts, Fill in the blanks on the STC, get the required signiture, file the STC with the FAA (in the appropriate time period), have the log entry made, and flyaway into the afternoon sun (I don't get up early in the morning, that's when I go to bed).

I am also going to inspect the crudbumples out of the strut fittings so that I don't ruin my new struts due to falling out of the sky

RonC.

[Guest]

Re: strut hardware

This is the final word on the subject (you bet!)
I called Airframes today and had a nice long comfortable conversatioin with a head man.

The gist of the conversation was this:

He would rather I didn't post their instructions for installation of the struts. I assume that limits their liability to the struts that they sold. I understand that and will honor his preferences.

The Airframes struts require the completiion of the STC and he does not think that it can be changed. He thinks that the STC may be a simple check the box and send in the paper work (with the proper signature).

In a short time he plans to leave a message on the forum regarding the struts and the STC.

For me, everything is as clear as a bell. I am going to paint the struts, follow Airframes instructions, install the struts, Fill in the blanks on the STC, get the required signiture, file the STC with the FAA (in the appropriate time period), have the log entry made, and flyaway into the afternoon sun (I don't get up early in the morning, that's when I go to bed).

I am also going to inspect the crudbumples out of the strut fittings so that I don't ruin my new struts due to falling out of the sky

RonC.

That makes sense, the stuff in blue is the 337, the signature is the IA signature

[KewFlyer]

Re: strut hardware

Well I went through the material that came with the Airframes struts. There are installation instructions, a log of revisions, a page identifying applicable models, a page listing materials required for the installation. This page lists:
30" bubble or digital level
tape measure 1/16" grads. min. 2@
Bolts AN3-15A 2@
AN5-13A 4@
AN5-27A 2@
Washers AN960-10 4@
AN960-516 as required
Nuts AN365-10 2@
AN365-524 5@
Thread Sealant Mastinox 6856K as required

Pages detail leveling, rigging, and replacing one strut at a time follow.
Nice clear instructions. Finally they have included a STC.

They mention a corrosion preventitive for the exposed threads, but they did not identify what it should be unless they were refering to Mastinox. Aircraft Spruce does not stock Mastinox.

You should probably include a borescope and finishing materials for the fus. to strut fittings and heat for the hanger if you are working above the Mason Dixon line (did I say a bad thing?).

The struts are in the hanger, the borescope is beside me on the chair, the hardware should be here on Monday and if all goes well I will be in the air a couple of days after that.

If not, I'll have to fly the open cockpit sparrow.

RonC

Ron:
Thanks for the hardware list. I'm getting it from Spruce but could you check the number on one of the nuts: "AN365-10". Spruce shows AN365-10XX.
I'm guessing that the number is AN365-1032. Let me know
Also, instead of Mastinox, I'll use F-900 "torque seal" from Spruce [1/2 oz for less than @$2.00] Mastinox has been claimed to be cancernogen (?). My 2 cents.
Thanks
Ralph