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  • #31
    List of NDT service providers for strut AD

    For those of us planning to inspect first, and maybe order new sealed struts later, could I ask for recommendations on where to get eddy current or ultrasound testing done before November 20?

    Iowa: No luck. I spoke with Doug Vaughn at Advanced Air Inc. at the Council Bluffs airport, which is apparently Iowa's only FAA Certified Repair Station for non-destructive testing. He tried to do a Taylorcraft strut inspection, but found that his older eddy current and ultrasound machines weren't sensitive enough to measure down to 0.020" wall thickness.

    [10/17 update -- Also spoke with Elliott Aviation at the Des Moines airport. Their NDT technician just so happens to be a Taylorcraft owner (he's replacing all four struts after finding corrosion), but they don't have the correct low-frequency probe to do ultrasound.]

    Missouri, St. Louis: My fellow Iowan Carl Carson used and recommends Quality Testing Services: www.qualitytesting.net. He said they could do the testing at the nearby Creve Coeur airport.

    California, Los Angeles: Bill Berle mentioned LA X-ray. Anybody have more details about them?

    22 states: Forrest Barber mentioned Acuren, whose website shows branch offices around the country: www.acuren.com. Has anybody used them?

    Illinois, Chicago: I'm waiting to get an ultrasonic inspection quote from Magnetic Inspection Laboratory: www.milinc.com. I have to drive to Chicago for a conference next week, and might just take my struts in the car with me.

    [10/17 update -- Nix on Magnetic Inspection Laboratory in Chicago. After reading the AD and SB I emailed, they said their ultrasound equipment couldn't do that thin a wall thickness.]

    Minnesota, St. Paul: Found Stork Twin City Testing Corp. on the Web, but haven't spoken with them yet: www.storktct.com

    Anybody know of other shops in states adjacent to Iowa? Preferably located at an airport?

    [10/17 update -- Spoke with Duncan Aviation at the Lincoln, Nebraska airport. Emailed them the AD and SB; waiting for a price quote.]
    Last edited by Joel Severinghaus; 10-17-2007, 20:08. Reason: updated information
    Joel Severinghaus
    Des Moines, Iowa
    TF# 657

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    • #32
      Re: List of NDT service providers for strut AD

      Hi Joel,

      Mine were suppose to have been tested at Emery Air at the Rockford, IL airport, but because of some scheduling problems with my A&P, they still haven't been taken in.

      It might be worth a try to contact them to see if you can drop them off on your way to Chicago. http://www.emeryair.net

      Good luck, and let us know how things go.
      Mike
      NC29624
      1940 BC65

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      • #33
        Re: Strut Testing - where, who and what cost? (merged)

        Does anyone know where to go in Buffalo Nigara Falls NY area for strut testing? In Canada I have had prices of $600 to $1000 remove them and transport to Toronto area! T.D.C.
        I am tempted to take them to St Lois as I can get low cost ride down.
        Why the diffrence in price?
        Is eddycurent sheeper to do?
        Len
        TDC = too darn costly
        I loved airplane seens I was a kid.
        The T- craft # 1 aircraft for me.
        Foundation Member # 712

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        • #34
          Re: Strut Testing - where, who and what cost? (merged)

          There is an outfit called Tailwind Inspection Services out of OK with satellites all over that just inspected the struts on my former airplane here in Vermont. They charge $350.00 for a set and did eddy current. We saved because they were coming to VT anyway to do some inspections on Citations. You might google them and find out if they're coming to a location near you.

          Ed@BTV VT
          TF 527

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          • #35
            Re: Strut Testing - where, who and what cost? (merged)

            TEXAS- Here's who did my inspection. They also worked with Andy McAnaul and Taylorcraft LLC to define the radiography portion of the revised service bulletin/AD.

            Bryan Lancon - BRL Consultants, Inc
            Nondestructive Testing (NDT) consulting ASNT NDT Level III
            115 E. Rhapsody #2
            San Antonio, Texas 78216
            United States of America

            Contact: Bryan Lancon
            Tel: 210-341-3442
            Fax: 210-341-2844
            Terry Bowden, formerly TF # 351
            CERTIFIED AERONAUTICAL PRODUCTS, LLC
            Consultant D.E.R. Powerplant inst'l & Engines
            Vintage D.E.R. Structures, Electrical, & Mechanical Systems
            BC12D, s/n 7898, N95598
            weblog: Barnstmr's Random Aeronautics
            [email protected]

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            • #36
              Re: Strut Testing - where, who and what cost? (merged)

              By the way - does anyone know if the AD revision is out yet?
              Terry Bowden, formerly TF # 351
              CERTIFIED AERONAUTICAL PRODUCTS, LLC
              Consultant D.E.R. Powerplant inst'l & Engines
              Vintage D.E.R. Structures, Electrical, & Mechanical Systems
              BC12D, s/n 7898, N95598
              weblog: Barnstmr's Random Aeronautics
              [email protected]

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              • #37
                Re: Strut Inspection Results

                flyguy:
                Can you post the info on the company in Lincoln. My 1939 is grounded for now with the mags at Arnair for rebuild. When I get her flying I will need to get the struts done. Thanks in advance.
                Jim.

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                • #38
                  Re: Strut inspection results

                  Sure:
                  Certified Testing and Conslting Services (CTC)
                  3144 Venture Drive, Suite 100
                  Lincoln, CA
                  95648

                  TEL: (916) 434-0195
                  Ask for Tony--manager, supervisor, owner?

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                  • #39
                    Re: Strut inspection results

                    had my struts ultrasound tested last night all four were as good as you can get they were installed in july of 1980 they were bought from the factory at a cost of $600.00 they all showed to be .051 thick the thinest spot was .049 the test was done by s&s testing in nashville took him about 2hrs cost was $150.00 he said you could pull a bulldozer with them chuck
                    1940 BLT/BC65 N26658 SER#2000

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                    • #40
                      Re: Strut Testing - where, who and what cost? (merged)

                      As of November 6, Bob Dunn at Emery Air (800-435-8090) at the Rockford, Illinois airport said they were still waiting on delivery of a new eddy current probe.

                      So now I'm planning to have my struts removed here in Des Moines and drive them three hours each way on June 12 to Duncan Aviation at the Lincoln, Nebraska airport. (Ray Vieselmeyer, NDT shop, 800-228-4277.) Duncan's a corporate jet specialist with a $95/hr shop rate, so I'm wincing in advance at what the eddy current inspection might cost me. But they're the closest shop I could find that won't require an overnight trip and can get it done by the AD deadline. I'll report back with the final price tag.

                      Unless of course the FAA issues a revised AD disapproving the eddy current method before then.
                      Joel Severinghaus
                      Des Moines, Iowa
                      TF# 657

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                      • #41
                        Re: Strut Testing - where, who and what cost? (merged)

                        Joel, Check out the thread 'Revision B; eddy current' looks like it might not be valid.
                        20442
                        1939 BL/C

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                        • #42
                          Re: Strut Testing - where, who and what cost? (merged)

                          Joel-
                          DO NOT GET YOUR STRUTS EDDY CURRENT INSPECTED. Eddy Current is no longer an approved inspection technique in the latest revision of the service bulletin. Ultrasonic and x-ray is ok.

                          You are better off waiting for the revised AD.

                          It will reference the Taylorcraft SB 2007-001 Rev. B. If you follow the current AD and do eddy current and the AD is revised, you will have to repeat the inspection with an approved method.
                          Mike Rice
                          Aerolearn
                          Online Aircraft Maintenance Courses
                          BC12D N95910 Tale Dragon
                          TF #855

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                          • #43
                            Re: Strut Testing - where, who and what cost? (merged)

                            Hey All,

                            A new AMOC revision/list has just been posted on the regulations.gov website. I've attached it to this email but you can also see it by logging on to the reg.gov website and searching for "28478".

                            Dan

                            This post also copied to the strut AD thread. Rob
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                            Last edited by Robert Lees; 11-09-2007, 08:27.

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                            • #44
                              Re: handpropping question

                              Taylor Main
                              What are you doing about struts??
                              Robbie
                              TF#832
                              N44338
                              "46" BC12D
                              Fond du lac WI

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                              • #45
                                Re: handpropping question

                                Robbie, I don't mean to butt in here, but I am getting my struts done the 15th at Reedsburg Wi. they have 5 tcrafts lined up for ultrasound. looks like 400.00 per plane. For more info, call Tom Cunningham, 608-524-3910.


                                Bob Pollard
                                Tomah Wi.
                                Foundation #561
                                bob pollard tomah wisconsin tf#561

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