max xwind

[RobertP]

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Hi,

I agree with that good advice too! I have watched this thread with considerable interest and in my case with the F22A and its milk stool landing gear! ( I love that description of the Tri Gear! ) the aircraft is clearly placarded not to exceed 10 knt cross wind landings and the POH states this very clearly as well, so to me that tells a considerable amount about the aircraft in general.

I find anything much over 10 knt's crosswind is a real handful so either some of you are much better Pilots than me ( probably the case with these type's of aircraft ) or more interesting the taildraggers are easier or perhaps more efficient to land in strong cross winds? I must admit I always thought it was the other way about but having read the thread I am beginning to wonder? sadly I don't have the experience of taildraggers to be able to judge?

When it comes to general flying the previous owner of the aircraft told me when I purchased it several years ago not to go flying it when the surface wind was anything over 15knts in any direction until I was very familiar with it! now some 150 hours on that is still good advice as anything over that is very bumpy and unpleasant! I have flown the aircraft in 15 knt winds gusting 25 knts and I really did wish I was back on the ground! I know that you can gain altitude to gain more favourable air conditions but you still have to descend at some stage!

I love flying the F22A but for me it's fine days and holidays! If I want something to go some where when the wind is outside these parameters I am very ashamed to say I borrow my old groups C172 but I guess that is very unfair comparison of sorts! but one things for sure and that is that the Taylorcraft cannot be beaten for just just lazing around on calm summer evenings with no particular place to go except take in the wonderful scenery at a slow gentle pace!

[jim cooper]

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In the 80's I landed at Rehobeth Beach Del. in the Stearman.(now a shopping center) It took 4 attempts to get on the ground, wind 15-20, gusts, higher. Once down, I spoke with a gentleman who strode over. He went thru Naval Cadets in 1943. He said..."You made it it! Good going! In training we never landed a Stearman in a cross wind. The field was a huge circle and we simply watched the sock and landed accordingly." unquote. Personally, I don't think Lindberg could have landed a Stearman in a 30 mph cross wind without f-----g it up! If you like your Taylorcraft alot and are not determined to "Prove something", I would recomend 15 mph cross wind as a maximum unless you are also an excellent fabric and dope person, and possibly a good engine rebuilder to boot. I learned in 1954. Back then, the INSTRUCTOR would not even take you up if it was over 12-15. (Aeronca Champ.) Those who have flown in 20-30 mile an hour winds in light aircraft usually don't enjoy it much and try to avoid it. Getting a mooney or a bonanza on the ground in these conditions is MUCH easier! JC

[Jim Lauden]

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[I have a cousin who used to bring a
big ol Navy Anti Sub Patrol plane on board carriers in the 60s... I can't remember the model... but he said if you did everything right you cleared the island by about 12 ft. Do it wrong and the Navy would ask for your wings... which is handy... because your wings were already in chunks on the deck. With regards; ED OBRIEN[/QUOTE HEY ED OBRIEN, THE NAVY SUBMARINE HUNTER KILLER AIRCRAFT YOU MENTIONED IS THE S-2 GRUMMAN TRACKER, FIRST AIRCRAFT DESIGNED TO OPERATE FROM AIRCRAFT CARRIER TO HUNT AND KILL SUBMARINES. CLEAR SKYS, AND TAILWINDS .............JIM

[DanBrown]

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I assume we're talking about the crosswind component of the wind. At 15 knots 45 degrees to the runway, that's about 10 knots component. 20 knots or better less than 10 degrees off the runway is not too bad, until trying to turn and taxi downwind with weak Shin brakes! I've managed to get a C-180 and C-195 (with the crosswind gear) on the ground without breaking them in 20 knots gusty crosswind component, but I sure wouldn't try in in my T-Craft. Ah for the days with lots of big square grass landing fields

[jim cooper]

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When I mention cross wind I don't mean a 10-20 degree cross wind. I mean a direct 90 degree cross wind. The cross wind gear on my 195 had been locked out as the principal turned out to be pretty bogus. The moment of the 195 was the longest of any aircraft in its day, I THINK, 29 feet. At any rate, it was a handful in 15 MPH direct.....direct cross wind. IF you ground looped it, as a Delta Captain did in Cambridge, Maryland, (in the above conditions) it was over! The gear case collapsed, down it went with engine damage. ( he had it taken apart, hauled it home to Maine to use as spare parts for another he had on floats. Dan...what kind of shinn brake parts do you need? JC

[shawn coleman]

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in my f22 dont use the flaps better control by far handles better than my 19 i think maybe