greenhorn just discovered the taylorcraft

[psychonaut]

Hi,

I am a freshly licensed pilot from germany and just discovered that neat Taylorcraft plane. Therefore i have tons of questions ;-) I hope that is the right place for this.

I got my license just a couple of month ago (on C-152 and PA-28 only) and right after that i fell in love with the PA-18 with nor flaps and 95 hp and got tailwheel instruction. What a different way to fly. That was what i was looking for :-)

Unfortunatly here in germany tailwheel planes are hard to rent out and i played with the idea to buy one. But unfortunatly PA-18's are very expensive. Then i found out about the F22 classic wich is priced (new) below a well maintained used PA-18.

so here are my newbie questions:

how would you compare the F22 to the PA-18 in regards to flying characteristics? With my limited experience i can only compare to that.

Can the F22 be registered in germany? Is there a german type certificate or CoA?

can auto fuel be used? (Avgas in germany is >5$/Gallon)

These are just the first and most important questions. Any input is very welcomed. ....Sorry if my english is sometimes a little weird. I am looking forward to hang outon this board and get to know more about taylorcrafts....

Mirko "Psychonaut"

[Dick Smith]

Welcome to Mirko

Mirko, Welcome to the Taylorcraft "Tribe"...! You have come to the right place. You will find a wealth of information about the Taylorcraft. I haven't flown the F-22, but there are some who have. Ask questions...then stay tuned. Dick

[crispy critter]

German F22

Welcome to the tribe Mirko,great to have you aboard.Don't worry about your english,I've been a native of this great nation all my life and I can't type or spell it very well either .
You can go to www.taylorcraft.com and surf the site.You will be able to find specs,info,and other stuff about the new T-crafts.
Hope this helps

[taylorcraftbc65]

Taylorcraft Newbie

Hertzlich Wilkommen Mirko,
I don't have an F-22, I have a 1940 BC65, so I can not
help you with a pirep. I will tell you this, though. The people on this board are the nicest, most helpful people I've seen around
aviation in a long time, and I've been around some pretty
helpfull people. Take your shoes off, get comfortable, stick
around a while, you will like it here.
In closing, I have two things to say to you.
Yadaskanishoennetaberiwillnicht
und
Freistat Bayern !
Sabrina

[Robert Lees]

Mirko:

In the UK we have a 1991 F22. It took many years (about 9) to get a UK CofA due to the perception of different standards between the US FAA and UK CAA. The aircraft still has only about 200 hours TT as a result, and many of these were from the original ferry flight from the States.

I suggest you check with your relevant Airworthiness Authority (LBA, EASA?) that they will accept current FAA Airworthiness standards prior to purchasing one.

A quick search of the LBA website www.lba.de shows no entries for Taylorcraft, so it is very unlikely that there is currently a German TC for it.

It may well be possible, however, to operate a FAA-registered Taylorcraft in Germany: check with someone who already operated a N-reg in Germany, if possible.

Rob

[psychonaut]

rehi,

hey, what a warm welcome here... :-) THX....and german speaking people everywhere....:-)

Well, the easiest way to circumnavigate the strict german rules especially in regard to noise regulations would be to get the F22 N registered. But i have a german licence (ICAO, not JAR-FCL)and would need a US licence for that.

Besides that, this would save a lot of money as i dont have to get mods to conform to german standards (prop, etc). Just buying, ferrying and thats it. With the current euro/US $ exchage rate, a new F22 would be the cheapest new plane there is right now :-)

I could get a new classic tailwheel plane for a price of a 30-40 year old super cub with unknown expenses in the future......

But as far as i know i would have to make vacation in the US and get the whole PPL all over again......:-( as there is no way of turning a german licence into an US one.......

cu
Mirko

[Robert Lees]

I think it is not as difficult as you think to get a FAA license. You should be able to apply through your Germany FAA office (I do not know how you find where that is...perhaps ask around the airports).

You then get an application form, mail it off, and wait for the little bitty paper thingy to arrive.

Rob

[psychonaut]

rehi,

i just googled a little bit. There are obviously two different ways to get an FAA licence:

1) validation

that will be only paperwork, but it is not a "real" faa licence. It will be printed the following on it: "issued on basis of and valid only when accompanied by german pilot license number(s) xxxxx" und "all limitations and restrictions on the german pilot license apply""

2) conversion

In order to get a fully and real FAA licence, the written and practicyl check/test will have to be done! Only the hours i have flown with my german icoa confirm licence will be accepted. So that would mean a little learning again.....;-) As there are some minor but important differencec between FAA and german ICAO licence....

Anyhow, if i am able to fly FAA registered aircraft with a validated licence as stated in 1) that would be the easiest and cheapest way to fly a N-registerd F22. .....Buying, ferry , taxes...and thats it!

cu
Mirko

[psychonaut]

...i just rechecked with the LBA and there seems to be a german TC for the "Taylorcraft (universal) 19 and the BC-12D but no F22.....

Mirko


P.S. but there are some very nice planes listed as for example Fieseler Storch and BF 108 Taifun......I guess in that case people outside germany have more problems.....;-)

[ROllerton]

Glad to have you join us here. There are several web sites to look at, I think we have them all in the links section at www.taylorcraft.org capt' Jons web site is very usefull too.



Send over a Storch and I am sure we can find you a Taylorcraft Bc12D to take home in trade!!!

(just kiding)

bob.
[edited by RL to correct link]

[stormman]

Plane in Germany

Mike
Now you just go right on out there and remind your goverment officials that we fly German gliders, drive German cars, drink German beer. Train the German Air Force, AND you guys are flying American F16s and American airliners. NoW that should get their Attention and get you a T craft over to Germany pronto.
If that fails you just tell Them NORM WOLFGANG HEIMBERGER and his Brothers from Pruim want to remind them who WON the WAR.
That should just about do it!

Norm
Ps , DON't give them my address
How about a used Tcraft? in the $15 to 20K range