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    Regarding Cory Lidle's aircraft accident in New York last month. Here's the first credible indication what really happened. SEE BELOW> With regards; ED OBRIEN

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- A light wind was cited by federal investigators Friday for blowing a small airplane carrying Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle off course and into a New York City high-rise on October 11.

    The National Transportation Safety Board said the wind, coupled with the pilot's inability to turn sharply, forced the aircraft away from its intended path over the East River and into the building.

    The airplane, which also carried flight instructor Tyler Stanger, struck the building and fell 30 stories to the street below. Investigators do not say whether they determined who was at the controls of the Cirrus SR20.

    The report issued Friday said the airplane was flying along the East River between Manhattan and Queens when it attempted a U-turn with only 1,300 feet of room for the turn. To make a successful turn, the aircraft would have had to bank so steeply that it might have stalled, the NTSB said in an update on the crash.

    Lidle and Stanger were making an aerial tour of Manhattan before flying back to California.

    Though Stanger was an experienced pilot, Lidle was not.

    Investigators found no problem with the propeller and engine, nor did they find any evidence of a fire or other damage while the airplane was in flight.

    If the pilot used the full width of the river to turn, he would have had 2,100 feet, the NTSB said. Instead, the pilot was flying closer to the middle of the river, leaving a smaller margin for error, the staff report said.

    Two days after the accident, the Federal Aviation Administration ordered small, fixed-wing planes not to fly over the East River unless the pilot is in contact with air traffic controllers.

    Small planes could previously fly below 1,100 feet along the river without filing flight plans or checking in with air traffic control. The FAA said the rule change -- a temporary one -- was made for safety reasons.

    The NTSB's update outlined factual information about the crash, but did not conclude what the probable cause of the crash was. The full board will likely vote on a ruling at a later date.

    Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

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    Re: What were they thinking? pt. 2

    Originally posted by WASHINGTON (AP)
    A light wind
    Likely story.

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    • #3
      Re: What were they thinking? pt. 2

      I suspect trying to conform to the airspace restrictions may have also contributed to the bad decision made. My attitude has always been "To he** with the regulations, I'm gonna' save my a**." Better fined than dead.
      DC

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      • #4
        Re: What were they thinking? pt. 2

        It doesn't make sense to me. But, it does point up the need to travel in tight space to one side. Project the flight ahead in your imagination. Make sure that you always have an escape route. No matter high terrain, bad weather, or narrow airspace conditions. I once found myself in a good old American layer-cake TCA, narrowed again by a Federal nuclear facility that had a blue-box around it, a low patch of clouds pushing in ahead of a front, and a bunch of high mountains coming up fast. My solution... after trying to call for higher clearence and nothing getting better was to break the airspace, remain VFR, and work it out as quick as I could... it was better than hitting a rocky peak or going IFR in a light VFR plane.

        Eventually I raised the controller and apologized to the -- he let me off the hook. Hitting a building or mountain is the worst idea.

        When crossing the mountain passes around Denver it's always tempting to go over the lowest notch. Bad idea. Fly a bit higher, stay to one side of the pass... competing traffic might suddenly appear at the base of the notch, and so leave yourself enough room to turn away using the entire width of the notch, if needed, or miss the oncoming traffic at the base of the notch. Cross at a 30-45 degree angle to the pass and keep both sides of the mountains in view with a constant swivel of the neck.

        Imagine the worst, plan for bad, and it is unlikely to take you by surprise. You shouldn't hit buildings or mountains.
        It seems basic but alot of folks mess-up the fundementals.
        Worst recent example was the Tigers in the World Series.
        With regards;
        ED OBRIEN

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